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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/03/2016 :  00:28:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by lyndal40

A brother of your Martha perhaps?



In my post near the middle of page 3, I put in a link to the sale of Gjeiterud from Marthe and Guri Olsdater to their brother Erik....

Edited by - jkmarler on 08/03/2016 00:29:20
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dwssnell
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Posted - 08/03/2016 :  00:52:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you jkmarler. In the 1865 census Guri was living with the family. I don't know if Marthe married and had other children.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 08/03/2016 :  01:06:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by dwssnell

Thank you jkmarler. In the 1865 census Guri was living with the family. I don't know if Marthe married and had other children.



In the record of Marthe Olsdatter Gederud age 60 leaving Faaberg for Ringsaker there is a K before her name which might mean that she is Kone or wife.
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dwssnell
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Posted - 08/03/2016 :  02:04:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you. Now I will have to search for that. So my Christian may have half brothers and/or sisters on both sides.
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/03/2016 :  03:14:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are there any Lars Christ* or Lars Krist* born in Ringsaker between 1790 and 1815 that can be found in the 1865 Census. Other than the one married to Eli of course. Not many only found three.and not living in Faaberg.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0412&kenr=003&bnr=0001&lnr=000

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0412&kenr=015&bnr=0018&lnr=000

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0412&kenr=015&bnr=0021&lnr=000

However there were none born in Ringsaker and living in Fåberg in the 1865 Census.

Could he have died between 1835 to 1865 in Fåberg.. Searching the death records in Fåberg I found one Lars Christinasen who died in 1851 at age 80, kind of old in 1835 and no clear link. Found another in 1862 age 60 but no obvious link. See number 53

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8936&idx_id=8936&uid=ny&idx_side=-82

There is a second Lars Christiansen on that same page who died at 84 whcih makes him a little old.

Edited by - AntonH on 11/03/2016 16:29:33
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dwssnell
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Posted - 08/03/2016 :  05:41:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It seems like these people went between Faaberg and Ringsaker a lot. My Christian Larsen was baptized in Faaberg, and confirmed. Marthe also lived in Faaberg, as well as the father Lars Bruget.
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/03/2016 :  21:46:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All except for Lars Christiansen. If the Lars Christiansen fathered the first Christian Larsen with Martha in Fåberg and then returned to Ringsaker and fathered the second Christian Larsen with Eli, he did so without me finding any trace of him in either the in (innflyttede) or out (utflyttede) from either Fåberg or Ringsaker during the time of interest.

Thats one of the reasons I looked for him in the 1865 Census and in the death records for Faaberg, thinking that there may be two Lars Christiansens.

Edited by - AntonH on 08/03/2016 21:55:43
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dwssnell
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Posted - 09/03/2016 :  03:07:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He is the mystery Lars. In one place in the bygdebok he is referred to as Lars Bruget of Ringsaker. On the confirmation he is Lars Christensen. Last night, I did find in the bygebok that Marthe died in 1887 (1812-1887) and she was unmarried, living on Norderhagen nordre. That is where Christian Larsen lived when he and his family emigrated from Norway to America in 1871. It says, "1875 Marthe Olsdatter Geitrud/Nordhagen, 1812-1887, ug, fra 77.1 Geitrud, Faaberg." This is on farm 497.4 Nordhagen nordre.
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dwssnell
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Posted - 09/03/2016 :  03:24:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found Marthe Olsdatter Geitrud death record in 1887. She died 12/29 1886 and was buried 1/14 1887. On the same page I found the death of Marthe Nielsdatter, the mother of Christian Larsen's wife, Anne Olsdatter from Saeterbakken. She died 7/2/1886 and was buried 7/9/1886. She was a widow.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/03/2016 :  04:14:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here Marthe is in 1875 census on Nordhagen:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01052059014020

The nephew Iver Olson living with Marthe in 1875 is #53 on left page:
Source information: Oppland county, Fåberg, Parish register (official) nr. 4 (1833-1837), Birth and baptism records 1835, page 68-69.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9280&idx_id=9280&uid=ny&idx_side=-24

Working on his father's farm in 1865 and interestingly there's a Marthe Olsdatter living there as well:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038065004881

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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/03/2016 :  04:25:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by dwssnell

He is the mystery Lars. In one place in the bygdebok he is referred to as Lars Bruget of Ringsaker. On the confirmation he is Lars Christensen. Last night, I did find in the bygebok that Marthe died in 1887 (1812-1887) and she was unmarried, living on Norderhagen nordre. That is where Christian Larsen lived when he and his family emigrated from Norway to America in 1871. It says, "1875 Marthe Olsdatter Geitrud/Nordhagen, 1812-1887, ug, fra 77.1 Geitrud, Faaberg." This is on farm 497.4 Nordhagen nordre.



Have you looked up Lars Christianson on Brugvangen in the bygdebok? His farm is also in Brottum.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/03/2016 :  04:40:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a number of Nordhagen farms in Ringsaker. This is the one that Christian Larsen was on.
Puttenborg (Gnr 497)
Myrengen (Bnr 5) 4.3 Nordhagen (Bnr 2) 4.3
Nordhagen nordre (Bnr 4) 4.3 Putten nordre (Bnr 1) 4.3
Putten søndre (Bnr 3) 4.3
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dwssnell
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Posted - 09/03/2016 :  07:15:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the bygdeboks Kirstian Larsen Nordhagen is on Nordhagen nordre in 1861, 497.4; and on Geitrud nordre, 77.1, at birth in 1835. He isn't mentioned in Puttenborg. Interesting!
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dwssnell
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Posted - 10/03/2016 :  22:53:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jkmarler: Thank you or the information on Over Olsen and his relationship with Marthe.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/03/2016 :  15:27:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Christian Larsen, wife and 2 children moving into Ringsaker in 1868?
Bottom of left hand page:
Source information: Hedmark county, Ringsaker, Parish register copy nr. 7 (1861-1869), Migration records 1868, page 434.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9082&idx_id=9082&uid=ny&idx_side=-359
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