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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/03/2016 :  23:08:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LindaGower

Wow! YOU all are great! I am going to take all these leads and work through them. The photo shown IS the same photo the family has. It makes sense that they headed to Menomonie and would end up in Ashland. I had found the US census data on them. Yes, they had 2 daughters in Ashland and one of them would have appeared in the 1895 Census.

Thank you to everyone!
You're welcome.
It would be interesting to know where it says he claims to be from "Strand, Rogaland"? Could it just say "Strand", or even better "Tyristrand"?
It's also interesting that both this ancestry.com record and this geni.com record says his father Nels was from Modum, which is exactly the same area as Tyristrand, where we have found this Andreas Nilsen Holte. Would you know about these sources, and the reference to Modum?
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/03/2016 :  23:43:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a possible for Andreas in the 1880 US Census. It is interesting in that he is living with Ole O Strand and wife Andrine

Andreas Nilson
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Andreas Nilson
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1855
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Menomonie, Dunn, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Laborer Sawmill

Edited by - AntonH on 27/03/2016 23:47:40
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/03/2016 :  23:47:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the record for Ole and family

Name: Ole O. Strand
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Menomonie, Dunn, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Andrine Strand
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Laborer Sawmill
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole O. Strand 27
Andrine Strand 23
Helene M. Strand 3
Nils Strand 20
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/03/2016 :  23:57:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole and Andrine had several children in Menomonie. Andrine is listed with the last name Thorsen in these birth records.

Oluf Alfred Strand
in the Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1801-1928
Name: Oluf Alfred Strand
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 27 Sep 1882
Birth Place: Menomonie, Dunn, Wisconsin
Father: Ole Olsen Strand
Mother: Andrine Thorsen
FHL Film Number: 1302866

Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2016 00:02:41
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Kċarto
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  00:05:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Village Tyristrand link

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 28/03/2016 00:07:34
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  00:17:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This could be the marriage of Andrew Holte. It says Dunn, Iowa but that is probably a mistake and they mean Dunn County Wisconsin. ie where Menomonie is located. Also the parents match very well to those listed by Jan Peter from the 1865 Census page one. The birth place of the two are listed, however I cannot make out the birth place for the groom but for the bride it is listed as Modum.

Andreas Nielson Holter
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Andreas Nielson Holter
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 4 Oct 1884
Marriage Place: Dunn, Iowa
Spouse: Brithe Karine Olson Borgen
Father: Nils Gunderson Holter
Mother: Mari Kristofferson
Church Name: Our Savior's Lutheran Church
Church Location: Menomonie, Wisconsin

Taking a close look I wouldd say that the parents of Brithe are Ole J Borgen and Marie Amundson (amundsdatter?)

And one of the witnesses could be Martinus Olsen Borgen

Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2016 01:46:55
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  00:34:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

This could be the marriage of Andrew Holte. It says Dunn, Iowa but that is probably a mistake and they mean Dunn County Wisconsin. ie where Menomonie is located. Also the parents match very well to those listed by Jan Peter from the 1865 Census page one. The birth place of the two are listed, however I cannot make out the birth place for the groom but for the bride it is listed as Modum.

Andreas Nielson Holter
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Andreas Nielson Holter
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 4 Oct 1884
Marriage Place: Dunn, Iowa
Spouse: Brithe Karine Olson Borgen
Father: Nils Gunderson Holter
Mother: Mari Kristofferson
Church Name: Our Savior's Lutheran Church
Church Location: Menomonie, Wisconsin

Great find Anton! it sure is them, and confirm that we have found the right guy. His parents match, and his wife was Karine Bertha Borgen.

His birthdate varies within a few days:
The christening record says his birthdate is 19 Jan 1855, see #26.

The confirmation record says his birthdate is 16 Jan 1855, see #16, right page.

The ancestry.com record says his birthdate is 15 Jan 1855. What is the source?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  01:43:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
His birthplace is Hole Prestegjeld in the marriage record.
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  01:54:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe it was not a J but an I. Here is Ole Ingebredesen and Marie Amundsdatter with daughter Berthe K born in 1855 living on Borgen in Modum, Buskerud in the 1865 Census. And they have a son Martinus as well.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0623&kenr=007&bnr=0189&lnr=000

Or

1865

Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2016 02:02:43
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  02:28:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lots of information on the brother Martinus ie Martin in America, including this census record.

Martin Borgan
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Martin Borgan
[Martin Borgen]
[Marta Borgen]
Age: 48
Birth Date: Nov 1851
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Eau Galle, Saint Croix, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1879
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Helena M Borgan
Marriage Year: 1884
Years Married: 16
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Martin Borgan 48
Helena M Borgan 40
Julia M Borgan 16
Oscar M Borgan 13
Selina H Borgan 9
Arthur N Borgan 10/12
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  02:34:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the baptism record for Martinius, see number 115

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8497&idx_id=8497&uid=ny&idx_side=-42

And the baptism record for his sister Birthe Carine wife of Andrew Holte. See number 9

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1107&idx_id=1107&uid=ny&idx_side=-84


Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2016 02:43:56
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  04:30:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Marriage of Ole Engebrechtsen and Marie Amundsdatter Fathers are Engebrecht Jonsen and Ammund Madsen.

Ole Engebrechtsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Ole Engebrechtsen
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: 1819
Marriage Date: 3 jan 1845
Marriage Place: Modum, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Engebrecht Jonsen
Spouse: Marie Ammundsdr
FHL Film Number: 278202
Reference ID: 2:1RJQGV3

See also number 1 in Digitalarkivet.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1156&idx_id=1156&uid=ny&idx_side=-90
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  04:35:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably baptism record for Ole Ingebretesen (note the spelling variation in the name Ingebretesen).

Ole Ingebretsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ole Ingebretsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 mar 1818
Baptism Date: 23 mar 1818
Baptism Place: Modum, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Ingebret Johnsen
Mother: Oline Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 124044
Reference ID: 2:1L0BVJF

Also see second entry on left hand page in Digitalarkivet.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8496&idx_id=8496&uid=ny&idx_side=-253

Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2016 04:44:16
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  04:52:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably baptism record for Marie Ammundsdatter (also spelled Marja)

Marja Amundsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Marja Amundsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 24 mar 1817
Baptism Date: 4 apr 1817
Baptism Place: Modum, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Amund Madsen
Mother: Maren Hansdr
FHL Film Number: 124044
Reference ID: 2:1L0BNS2

See also second entry on the right hand page in Digitalarkivet

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8496&idx_id=8496&uid=ny&idx_side=-241

Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2016 04:53:09
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/03/2016 :  04:58:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably Amund Madsen living at Borgen in 1801 Census. Not married yet. Father is not in census. Mother is probably Anne Christensdater.

1801

Appears as if he got married shortly after the census.

Amund Madsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Amund Madsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 6 feb 1802
Marriage Place: Modum, Buskerud, Norway
Spouse: Maren Hansdr
FHL Film Number: 124044
Reference ID: 2:10SCWTT

See also the last record on the right hand page in Digitarkivet.

Amund and Maren

Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2016 05:09:08
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