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cdahl
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Posted - 27/06/2016 :  17:33:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many thanks for all the responses on Gaard family. Reinert emigrated to America and settled in South Dakota. I will have to try and see what the church records at Lake Preston, South Dakota, show for his birthdate. I appreciate everyone's time!
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/06/2016 :  18:04:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a church record, I assume that this is the Reinert you are interested in.

Reiwart Gaard
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Reiwart Gaard
Event Type: Burial
Birth Date: 30 Apr 1851
Death Date: 12 Aug 1915
Burial Date: 14 Aug 1915
Church Name: Lake Preston Evangelical Lutheran Church
Church Location: Lake Preston, South Dakota

The original record lists him as Reinert K Gaard

Edited by - AntonH on 27/06/2016 18:05:53
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cdahl
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Posted - 27/06/2016 :  21:54:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you, lyndal40, for this information. I really wonder where the 2nd Reinert, supposedly born in November 1852, came into this picture. I think we can eliminate him completely. Many, many thanks!
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cdahl
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Posted - 16/08/2016 :  21:37:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am writing up the history and memories of the Gaard/Larsen families (my grandparents). Could I get some help on a couple of dates? I need clarification? I have 3 generations of Rasmus Rasmusson's beginning with Rasmus Rasmusson born in 1699 in Espeland, Hjelmeland, Rogaland, Norway. I have him as dying in 1779 in Ladstein Indre, Finnoy. I have his wife as Kirsti Ivarsdotter born 1704 in Flat-Hetland, Fister, Rogaland and dying December 1767 in Landstein Indre, Finnoy, Rogaland. I have their son as Rasmus Rasmusson born 1739 in Flat-Hetland, Fister, Rogaland, married on Nov 27 , 1761 but I do not know when he died. Is this the Rasmus that died in 1791 in Gaard, Finnoy, Rogaland? I have his son Rasmus Rasmusson being born in 1765 in Landstsein Ytre, Finnoy, Rogaland but I do not know when he died. This Rasmus I have married to Ingeborg Rasmusdotter (I can't believe the number of Rasmus's) and have her death at Finnestad, Hetland, Rogaland but no date. As has been stated before, I can't rely on Ancestry.com's dates as fact. Uff, I need to get this done! Many thanks!
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/08/2016 :  22:27:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Family Tree on Geni.com for the family of Rasmus Rasmusson born 1699. The tree seems to indicate the source used for the data. As usual you must use online family trees with some care.

https://www.geni.com/people/Rasmus-Rasmusson/6000000005609278514

And not to surprising for Geni.com here is a completely separate tree with many of the same people in it. In a perfect world someone famiiar with Geni.com and with this family would have merged these two trees into one tree. However before merging the trees, someone would have to sort out the differences from one tree to the other. One tree has a 1739 birth year for the son Rasmus Rasmussson Indre Ladstein and the other has a 1748 birth year for Rasmus Rasmusson Ladstein (Rasmusson. These seem to be the same person but the two trees give slightly different first names to this person wife. The trees also differ in some of the data on the parents of the wife, same father but different mothers.

https://www.geni.com/people/Rasmus-Indre-Ladstein/6000000005049030292?through=6000000005049030302

And another one without sources.

http://youronlineroots.com/www.php?bla_id=20172&bredde=1600

It probably would help your confidence level in your tree if you were able to use Bygdebĝker to pin down the dates and relationships.

So you can see how just using online tree data wll lead to great confusin.


Edited by - AntonH on 17/08/2016 04:33:56
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/08/2016 :  22:40:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A baptism record for the Rasmus Rasmusen born in 1765

Rasmus Rasmusen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Rasmus Rasmusen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 3 mar 1765
Baptism Place: Finnoy,Rogaland,Norway
Father: Rasmus Lasten


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AntonH
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Posted - 16/08/2016 :  22:55:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the 1801 Norwegian Census for the Rasmus Rasmusen born abt 1765 and married to Ingeborg Rasmusdatter. Birth years are calculated so can be off some ways.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058346003834

Rasmus and Ingeborg were married June 19, 1792.

Rasmus Rasmusen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Rasmus Rasmusen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 19 jun 1792
Marriage Place: Finnoy,Rogaland,Norway
Spouse: Ingeborg Rasmusdr
FHL Film Number: 126111

See also the original record left page third entry down.

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070504640676

Edited by - AntonH on 16/08/2016 23:06:26
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eibache
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Posted - 17/08/2016 :  09:44:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Rasmus Rasmusson born in 1699 in Espeland, Hjelmeland, Rogaland, Norway.

In the bygdebok for Espeland his birth year is not indicated. However when he was at Ladstein (1755 - 1771) he was told to be 59 years in 1758.
His parents were Rasmus Sveinson (b. approx 1656 at N. Fevold) and Brita Rasmusdatter.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 17/08/2016 :  09:55:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I have his wife as Kirsti Ivarsdotter born 1704 in Flat-Hetland, Fister, Rogaland.

The bygdebok for Ladstein says his wife Kirsti Ivarsdatter was 55 years old in 1758 (b. approx 1703) and died 1768 nearly 63 years old.
(Kirsti had earlier been married to Ivar Nilsen, Garċ.) They had the following children:
Rasmus b. 1739, conf. 1756, married 1761 to Martha Knudsdatter,
Siri b. 1742
Lars b. 1744
Rasmus b. 1748, conf. 1766, married 1771 to Ingeborg Knudsdatter.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 17/08/2016 09:59:40
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eibache
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Posted - 17/08/2016 :  10:10:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Rasmus Rasmusson born 1739

He was born at Indre Ladstein and married to Martha Knudsdatter. Death year unknown for both of them.
They had the following children:
Anna b. 1762
Berta b. 1764
Rasmus b. 1765, conf. 1784
Kirsti b. 1766
Knut b. 1769.

Einar
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cdahl
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Posted - 17/08/2016 :  16:31:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you to all who helped clear this up for me.. I would love to read the history of Gaard in Talgje. But, of course, it would need to be in English.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 17/08/2016 :  23:45:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rasmus Rasmusen Ladstein age 53 died on Gaard 1791, buried June 2, see on top right page link

"Enke" Widow Martha Knudsdatter born in Ytre Ladstein died on Gaard 1797 age 67, buried March. 26. Right page 6. line from bottom link

Both buried in the cemetery at Talgje Church from 1100.

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 18/08/2016 00:07:03
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Kċarto
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Posted - 18/08/2016 :  00:14:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ytre Ladstein where Martha Knudsdatter was born link

Kċre

Edited by - Kċarto on 18/08/2016 00:15:27
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cdahl
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Posted - 18/08/2016 :  18:00:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only couple that I don't have death records for are Rasmus Rasmusson born in 1765 in Ladstein Ytre and his wife Ingeborg Rasmusdotter who was born in Gaard, Talgje in 1775. Thank you all for your help!
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cdahl
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Posted - 18/08/2016 :  18:46:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am quite confused at this point! While checking info on "Geni" I found Rasmus Rasmusson (b. 1699 - d. 1779) and his wife Kirsti Ivarsdotter (b. 1704 - d. 1767). In my info I show a son born to them as Rasmus Rasmusson born 1739 (as stated before). In the "Geni" it shows a son born 1748. It lists his wife as Ingeborg Knutsdotter and my record shows Rasmus married to Martha Knutsdotter. Am I on the right lineage? My g-grandfather was Tollak Gaard, son of Knud Rasmusson Gaard. My pedigree chart shows his male ancestors for 3 generations as Rasmus Rasmusson. Maybe I'm going too deep on this but I do want the right person and dates to be fact. Again, thanks for your time and effort!
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