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ericmhanson
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 Posted - 26/07/2016 : 13:09:46
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QUERY FORM
JOHAN EDVARD HANSEN
Pertinent sources of information:
A biography of Johan E Hansen is included in the book, ILLUSTRATED ALBUM of BIOGRAPHIES of POPE AND STEVENS COUNTIES, MINNESOTA (Alden, Ogle, and Company, Chicago, 1888.) The biography of Johan Hansen is on p.239. The book is in the public domain. It has been digitized is available for review online.
Record of baptism
Census of 1865
Record of marriage
1. Person: JOHAN EDVARD HANSEN
Name variations: Hanson at some point in America
2. Birthdate: 1 May 1852
Baptism date: 3 Jul 1852
Baptism place: Kongsberg, Norway
(source: Baptismal record, FHL film number 123985)
3. Birrthplace: apparently Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
4. Parents:
Father: Hans N. Hansen
Mother: Ingeborg Marie Andersdotter
(source: Baptismal record, FHL film number 123985)
5. Siblings: Children are: Niels August b.1850, (Johan Edvard b.1852), Andreas Hagbart b.1854, Mikael Walerius b.1857, Helene Emelie b.1859, Anne Kirstine b.1862, Andreas Hagebart b.1865 (note same name as child number three, who apparently was deceased by 1865), Herman Julius b. 1868.
(source: individual baptismal records. Please see the requests for information about Hans Hansen and Ingeborg Marie for details of the information about the individual children.)
6. Spouse: Olea Pedersdotter.
Name variations: She is listed as Olea Pedersdotter on the marriage document. Variations are Olia, Lena, Pedersen, Petersen, Peterson, Hansen, and Hanson
Birthdate: 27 Mar 1850
Birthplace: Trondheim, Sor-Trondelag, Norway
Baptismal date: unknown
Baptismal place: unknown
Emigration date: unknown
Marriage date: 31 Mar 1877
Marriage place: Benson, Swift county, Minnesota, USA
Olea’s parents are listed as Peder Olsen and Marit Engerbretsen on the marriage document.
7. Farm/Gard: Unknown
8. Emigration date: 1871, specifics not known
9. Emigrated to: arrival site not known. He lived in Wisconsin briefly, and then in Pope county, Minnesota.
10. Specific locations that the person lived: Kongsberg in Buskerud county, Eidsfoss in Vestfold county, and Stromso a borough of the city of Drammen in Buskerud county.
11. Everything else I know about the individual:
The following is from the Album: “JOHAN E. HANSON, a resident of section 31, Chippewa Falls township, is a native of Norway, born May 11, 1852, and is the son of Hans N. and Engebor (Anderson) Hanson, who were also of Norwegian birth……
The subject of this biographical sketch, Johan E. Hanson, was born at Konigsberg City(sic), Norway, and attended school at Eidsfoss. At the age of sixteen he entered a store as clerk, remaining for three years, and in 1871 came to America, first stopping in Utica, Dane county, Wisconsin. He was there employed one year on a farm, and then came to Pope county, Minnesota and
worked in a mill at Chippewa Falls for about two years. The next two years he worked at milling at Swift Falls, Swift county, Minnesota. He then purchased a farm of 147 acres in Chippewa Falls township. This was improved by him and initially a portion of it was sold. He then bough seventy acres, which joined his, and now has 150 acres, finely improved. He is engaged in the stock business and also in general farming. He was married March 31, 1877 by Rev. Reque, to Miss Olia Peterson, daughter of Peter and Marit (Engerbretson) Peterson, natives of Norway. Mr. and Mrs. Hanson are blessed with a family of four children now living--Herman, Marie, Inga, and Sophus.
In his political faith Mr. Hanson does not stick to parties and is independent, voting for the best man. He has held the office of township supervisor, assessor, school director and school clerk, holding the latter at the present time. He was elected as county commissioner in 1886, and is looked upon by all as one of the leading and one of the most intelligent and reliable citizens in the southern part of the county.”
It is notable that the family changed livelihoods in about 1868, and became merchants. It is likely that the store in which he clerked from 1868 until his emigration in 1871 was the family business.
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12. Resources searched:
ILLUSTRATED ALBUM of BIOGRAPHIES of POPE AND STEVENS COUNTIES, MINNESOTA , record of baptism. census of 1865, record of marriage
13. What do I want to find out:
My brother and his family are visiting Norway in August. Any information about sites that they could visit would be of great interest. This includes any immigration-related museums, the location of the places where the family lived and worked, and any burial sites of ancestors who did not emigrate. I am also interested in knowing whether a detailed genealogical tree has been worked out that includes Johan, and if so, by whom. We are interested in knowing whether there are living relatives in Norway that we could possibly contact and visit.
Also:
The location of the homes in which he lived in Kongsberg, Eidsfoss, and Stromso.
Information about Johan’s youth, including his schooling.
Information about the family merchant business and store.
Details about his emigration including the date and site of departure, and the ship on which he sailed.
Information about his wife Olia Pedersdotter.
Thank you.
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Hopkins
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2016 : 14:11:29
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Johan Edvards parents, Hans Hansen and Ingeborg Maria Andersdatter, were married in Hof, Vestfold Sept 22 1849, see #12.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 26/07/2016 14:23:03 |
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2016 : 14:27:11
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Johan Edvards parents and siblings in 1865.
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2016 : 22:15:13
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Johan Edvard Hansens father Hans N. Hansen was born Nov 25 1826, see #2.
His parents were Niels Hansen, Eidsfos and Elen Hansdatter.
(According to Norwegian naming practice he should have been named Hans Nielsen.)
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Edited by - eibache on 26/07/2016 22:16:17 |
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eibache
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Posted - 26/07/2016 : 22:59:08
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Olea Pedersdatter is most likely Olia Pedersdatter born in Meråker, see #24.
She was born out of wedlock and her parents were Peder Olsen Bentz and Marit Ingebretsdatter, Tømeraas.
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eibache
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Posted - 27/07/2016 : 11:26:07
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Widower Niels Hansen, (29 years old) and Elen Maria Hansdatter, Eidsfoss, (31 years old) were married Sept 16 1817, see #13.
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Einar |
Edited by - eibache on 27/07/2016 12:31:39 |
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eibache
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Posted - 27/07/2016 : 12:50:35
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The father of Olia Pedersdatter, Peder Olsen Bentz, was a miner.
In 1865 he was living at Tømmeraas søndre, link.
He was born on Røros in approx 1831.
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eibache
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Posted - 27/07/2016 : 12:57:13
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Olia Pedersdatter was baptized at home by Ingebrigt Tømmeraas.
It is likely to believe that it was the father of Olias mother, Marit Ingebrigtsdatter.
Ingebrigt Tømmeraas = Ingebrigt Johnsen, Nordre Tømmeraas.
Ingebrigt Johnsen and Marit Nielsdatter with 2 children in 1865.
Note also that Olia is a servant in this household.
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Edited by - eibache on 31/07/2016 20:36:13 |
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ericmhanson
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ericmhanson
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Posted - 30/07/2016 : 23:00:40
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| Thank you for this information. Johan spent his first year in America in Dane County, Wisconsin, so the intention to go to Milwaukee is consistent with his actual history. Would Johan received formal schooling in the 1860's? In a recorded history he is reported to have stated, "I was born in Kongsberg and went to school in Eidsfoss." Eric |
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Hopkins
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Posted - 31/07/2016 : 13:21:45
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Wikipedia informs me "Eidsfoss is a village in Hof municipality, Vestfold county, Norway. It is located near Lake Eikeren." So if published local history books exist for the area it means we'd have to search for books about Hof in Vestfold.
Perhaps the Norwegian books “Hof bygdebok”, 3 volumes by Sigurd H. Unneberg; or “Hof Bygdebok”, 3 volumes by Hans Marius Trøseid might possibly have some information about schooling provided in or near Eidsfoss during that time period.
If he says he was schooled in Eidsfoss then I would believe him. How many years or how complete I cannot venture a guess. |
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ericmhanson
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Posted - 31/07/2016 : 14:18:01
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quote:
Originally posted by eibache
Olea Pedersdatter is most likely Olia Pedersdatter born in Meråker, see #24.
She was born out of wedlock and her parents were Peder Olsen Bentz and Marit Ingebretsdatter, Tømeraas.
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ericmhanson
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Posted - 31/07/2016 : 14:30:38
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Thank you for the information, and the effort you put into finding it. What does "out of wedlock" imply? Did her mother and father ever marry? Was Olia raised in her father's household? Was she raised by her single mother? Is this situation related to her being a servant at age 16? Did this status put individuals at a disadvantage in life?
The information that I have about Olea in America is limited. She married Johan Hansen in 1877 in Swift county, Minnesota, and then lived on their farm in Pope county, Minnesota. The marriage document lists her father as Peder Olsen and her mother as Marit Engerbretsen, consistent with the information you have discovered. The US census in 1885 lists Marit as a member of the Hansen household. I do not have information about their immigration dates, whether they immigrated together, and whether her father immigrated as well. Are you able to find their immigration dates? Eric
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eibache
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Posted - 31/07/2016 : 14:37:10
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quote:
In a recorded history he is reported to have stated, "I was born in Kongsberg and went to school in Eidsfoss."
Kongsberg and Eidsfoss is shown in this map.
His father worked for mining companies in both places.
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Edited by - eibache on 31/07/2016 15:10:33 |
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eibache
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Posted - 31/07/2016 : 14:53:37
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Eidsfoss ironworks had its own school for the workers children.
A norwegian text is found here.
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Edited by - eibache on 31/07/2016 14:54:37 |
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Johan E Hansen b. 1 May 1852
