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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7791 Posts |
 Posted - 03/10/2016 : 15:52:35
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These are Rolf's maternal grandmother and 2 aunts and uncle going to US in 1882. Don't know if this was intended to be permanent relocation or not:
Given name Last name Residence Age Date of emigration destination Source
Marie Deckmann Kr.ania 53 02.09.1882 New York
Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Anna Kr.Deckmann Kr.ania 23 02.09.1882 New York
Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Marie Deckmann Kr.ania 11 02.09.1882 New York
Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave
Harald Deckmann Kr.ania 10 02.09.1882 New York
Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930, redigert utgave |
Edited by - jkmarler on 03/10/2016 16:19:20 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2016 : 18:48:36
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Marie and the other three arrival in New York. No information on the original manifest as to their destination or whom they may be going to.
Marie Deckmann
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Marie Deckmann
Arrival Date: 20 Sep 1882
Birth Date: abt 1829
Age: 53
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Salier |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2016 : 19:01:54
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Interesting there is a lady from Sweden with a Family Tree on Ancestry.com that contains information on at least some of this family.
Niels Julius Dechmann
1864–1942
BIRTH 17 AUG 1864 • Stromso, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH 13 APRIL 1942 • Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
She lists two siblings of Niels and his mother but no father?
Wilhelm Severinus Dechmann
1860–1893
BIRTH 13 AUG 1860 • Stromso, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH 28 OCT 1893
Peder Rangvald Dechmann
1867–
BIRTH 1867 • Stromso, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH Unknown
Mother is listed as
Ingeborg Helene Hansen
1824–
BIRTH 1824 • Slagen
DEATH Unknown |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/10/2016 : 19:04:19
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Family and Friends are hereby notified that our beloved mother and mother-in-law, widow Marie Deichmann, has passed away in Brooklyn after a long illness.
Christiania, May 11th 1891
Harda Sørensen (nee Deichmann), Andreas Sørensen.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2016 : 19:10:14
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I do not know whay the Swedish lady did not add the name of the father of the three sons with mother Ingeborg Helen Hansen. Ancestry.com data records show his name to be Anders Dechmann.. A little poor use of Norwegian naming practices in the headline.
Wilhelm Severinius Anders Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Wilhelm Severinius Anders Johansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 13 aug 1860
Baptism Date: 28 okt 1860 (28 Oct 1860)
Baptism Place: Strømsø, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Anders Johan Dechmann
Mother: Ingeborg Helene Hansen
FHL Film Number: 278218
Reference ID: 54-165
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7791 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2016 : 04:21:10
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
Family and Friends are hereby notified that our beloved mother and mother-in-law, widow Marie Deichmann, has passed away in Brooklyn after a long illness.
Christiania, May 11th 1891
Harda Sørensen (nee Deichmann), Andreas Sørensen.
Her date of death is 16 Mar 1891, burial 18 Mar 1891 at Green-wood cemetery. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/10/2016 16:26:13 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7791 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2016 : 06:17:47
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In the Brooklyn Daily Eagle 26 May 1931 pg 20:
"Dr Frank C Raynor died 25 Mar 1931 at Oslo Norway, formerly of Brooklyn and Port Jefferson, L.I., husband of Marie Deichman Raynor."
Would he be in Oslo's dodfallsprotokol?
It appears that Marie's daughter and her granddaughter Marie may have lived in Norway for some time.
This is from Gravsferdsetaten I Oslo:
Gravnr: 20.312.02.002
Vestre gravlund
These two are paid / cared for until 2028
Marie Deichman Hilliard
29.05.1891 - 17.11.1967
Gravlagt: 20.09.1985
Marie Deickmann Hilliard
22.05.1918 - 01.03.2008
Gravlagt: 22.05.2008
20.103 This is a brother of Rolf
Andreas Deichman-Søren
Vestre gravlund
1894-02-05 1954-07-04
20.055.15.023
Gerd Elin Deichman-Sørensen
Vestre gravlund
1920-12-091992-02-09
20.055.15.024
Ingrid Deichman-Sørensen
Vestre gravlund
1894-01-221978-02-10
20.055.15.024
Bjørn Deichman-Sørensen
Vestre gravlund
1918-05-111980-10-02
20.103 a possible sister-in-law of Rolf
Lilly Deichman-Sørensen
Vestre gravlund
1899-09-25 1982-12-16
07.026.03.005
Jenny Margrete Deichmann
Grefsen kirkegård
1892-05-15 1961-07-02
07.026.03.005
Ragnvald Eugen Deichmann
Grefsen kirkegård
1890-07-28 1976-04-12
20.074
Elise Deichmann
Vestre gravlund
20.074
Peder Deichmann
Vestre gravlund
1867-01-22
20.312.02.002
Marie Deichman Hilliard
Vestre gravlund
1891-05-29 1967-11-17
07.050.06.003
Gerd Solveig Deichmann Raaberg
Grefsen kirkegård
1916-07-14 2006-12-13
20.221.00.071
Bothild Deichman Sørensen
Vestre gravlund
1916-08-212007-07-24 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/10/2016 16:38:22 |
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peder
Advanced member
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Posted - 04/10/2016 : 17:24:30
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| perhaps the author will thank those who have given all of this info. or acknowledge that this is his family |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7791 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2016 : 17:51:35
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Who knows? I did send a within system epost to her to let her know that we think we've got him, but so far no response.
Also there is further work to do to pick up all the records Jane mentioned on page 1. Some of them might further tie the guy to this family. Or maybe Harda Diechman Sørenson's dodfallsprotokol might mention missing Rolf. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/10/2016 : 19:21:14
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Harda's husband (and Ralphs father) Andreas Sørensen died on 26 Sep 1893, only 40 years old. He had suffered from tuberculosis for several years.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/10/2016 : 21:41:27
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Ralph's brother, Manager Bjørn Deichman Sørensen (33) arrived New York on the ship Hellig Olav on March 7th, 1918. Closest relative: wife Ingrid Deichman Sørensen, Arbinsgate 5, Christiania
His destination was uncle Frank Raynor, 68 Montgue str., Brooklyn N.Y.
Bjørn is listed on a norwegian cruiser that left America on July 7th 1918, headed for Norway, together with 800 fellow norwegians whos aim was to visit the home country. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7791 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2016 : 21:54:11
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Rolf was still around to be confirmed #57 in 1903 (the family tradition was that he ran away at age thirteen which means about 1901 since he was born in 1888 or about 1903 if the birthday was 1890):
SAO, Trefoldighet prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fb/L0004: Ministerialbok nr. II 4, 1896-1915, s. 97
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060606050576
Here the family is living 19 Wergelandsv in 1902. Rolf is called "Finn":
OBA, Kommunal folketelling 1902 for Kristiania kjøpstad, 1902, s. 23551
They don't appear to be at this address in 1903 at the time of the census.
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/of20130423058118
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2016 : 23:06:51
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Bjørn did seem to get around.
Björn Deichman-Sörensen
in the Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934
Name: Björn Deichman-Sörensen
Gender: männlich (Male)
Departure Age: 38
Ethnicity/Nationality: Norwegen (Norwegian)
Occupation: Disponent
Military Service: Passvisum
Birth Date: 5 Mrz 1885 (5 Mar 1885)
Birth Place: Christiania
Residence: Hamburg
Departure Date: 6 Okt 1923 (6 Oct 1923)
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Destination: Kristiania
Ship Name: Kong Dag
Shipping Clerk: Rob. M. Sloman jr., Hamburg
Shipping line: Det Sondenfjelds Norske Dampskibsselskab
Ship Type: Dampfschiff, kein Auswandererschiff
Emigration: nein
Accommodation: 2. Klasse
Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 305
Household Members:
Name Age
Björn Deichman-Sörensen 38
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