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Fredriksen1882
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 Posted - 19/10/2016 : 02:23:07
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Thank you; those links are really going to help me fill out the family tree on Ancestry! My mother has a portrait of Thorvold Martinius on a piece of oval shaped porcelain, and now I understand his relationship to Jensine.
I found these photos online of my great great grandparents, Jensine's father (Thomas Olsen, a skipper) and her mother (Marthe Jacobsdatter).
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Edited by - Fredriksen1882 on 19/10/2016 02:30:16 |
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jkmarler
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eibache
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Posted - 19/10/2016 : 21:31:00
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Andrine Pedersdatters father, Peder Raphalsen, and grandparents, Raphael Pedersen and Birte Hansdatter, in 1801.
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Fredriksen1882
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Posted - 20/10/2016 : 04:40:56
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| It is indeed very curious about the residents of Fallman farm. Pondering it further, it doesn't seem that Hans Fredrik could be Hans Sogn, due to their difference in age. But Hans being a bookbinder is interesting, in that Fredrik (the elder) had been a bookbinder. Curious indeed. Any hypotheses? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/10/2016 : 06:15:54
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Even Fredrik's sister Caroline was working in the book bindery when she served as faddernes, so it was apparently a whole family endeavor. Just my feeling about it, but its almost like a bomb went off in the family, they got so spread out and the ones still living by 1865 and 1875 censuses seem like they were suffering economically.
Fredrik Hansen left to go abroad and it did seem sudden. It would be pure speculation but I could see something like he borrowed money from the folks and then from others, owing money, since starting a business is difficult, maybe when he left and the landlord seized the equipment to pay the back rent. Or maybe he just left the equipment behind, wherever he went, intending to come back and then didn't return. Maybe the Fallmans decided to try to make something with the equipment and hired another bookbinder, who then made a match with the daughter...etc. Lots of scenarios. It would be interesting to see about the business itself if possible.
Hans Sogn lived a long time and in every census he's listed his occupation is book binding or book related. At age 29 in 1865 he's more of a contemporary of Fredrik than a son. |
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Fredriksen1882
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Posted - 20/10/2016 : 12:58:26
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That's a good supposition... I presumed Fredrik went abroad because he had two children born out of wedlock within months of one another in 1852, after already having had a son out of wedlock in 1848 (probably so, if the records match). I've read that Norway had child support laws at that time, and I can imagine having the two fathers of the women he partnered with confronting him in 1852. However, the third son (Andreas, born in 1852) didn't survive long. Ironically, I'm writing this as I look upon the 19th century bookpress in the small bookbinding studio I have in my home, but that is just a hobby, and was not passed down to me from ancestors. Still, coincidences are amazing...
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jkmarler
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Help appreciated deciphering marriage and baptism
