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livtjern
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 Posted - 24/11/2016 : 23:30:15
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| He and Dina Bergersdt. Bogstad, Strøm, Sør-Odal,got a son 7. october 1875 in Strøm, Sør-Odal, Norway without marriage. At the baptism: "jeweler Bernhard Pedersen, born 1847 of Kristiania, and I can't find him at the census 1875 in Norway, so I wonder about he has emigrate somewhere? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 25/11/2016 : 14:40:06
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Here is a little more about the son.
Geni family tree for Bernard (Sørlie) Pedersen born 1875
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Edited by - JaneC on 25/11/2016 15:29:15 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 25/11/2016 : 16:46:33
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| The databases for the 1875 Norwegian census are NOT complete. There are entire areas of the country not yet included. A person could well have been enumerated in the original census and just not appear in the databases (yet?). |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 25/11/2016 : 18:14:44
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| Thanks for mentioning the shortages in the 1875 online census. I did cover that by saying there was no Bernhard Pederson living in Kristiania working as gullsmed. As far as I have heard Kristiania is complete in the online verson. |
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livtjern
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 25/11/2016 : 23:18:45
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Thank you all very much for helping! I know that the census for 1875 not is complete. At the baptism for the son, it's was a question about he was Bernhard's first kid.
At the GENI it's standing that Bernhard was Dina' husband, but they were not marry.
I will chech about Peder Pedersen from Bragernes (Drammen).
You hear from me if I will find more about Bernhard. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 26/11/2016 : 01:16:42
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#110
SAH, Sør-Odal prestekontor, H/Ha/Haa/L0004: Ministerialbok nr. 4, 1870-1875, s. 161
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070124360107
It looks like it's her first and his first has a question mark. The pastor at Sør Odal might not know Bernhard since he lives in Kristiania.
Why wasn't baby Bernhard known as Bernhardson if his father was Bernhard Pederson? This is the transcription of the 1875 census at familysearch from Bogstad, link is not available at the moment will insert when it is:
Bernhard Pedersen
Norway Census, 1875
birth:1875Strøm S O Prægj
residence: 1875 Bogstad, Sør-Odal, Hedmark, Norway
other:
Eli Andersdatter, Johanne Bergersdatter, Marie Bergersdatter, Elen Bergersdatter, Dina Bergersdatter
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7NQ-69T
And the mother's birth year of 1850 recorded in the baptismal record is also not correct. Might mean the father's birth year is off as well. Here she is in the 1865 census:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038037000313
Here is transcription of Dina's birth / baptism from familysearch:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NH2S-NLQ
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livtjern
Medium member
Norway
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Posted - 28/11/2016 : 23:40:12
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| Sometimes the kids used the fathers surname, I've seen that. This is difficult to find out. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/11/2016 : 00:32:44
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At mere months old, baby Bernhard isn't telling the census taker anything. This would have to have come from Mom or somewhere else. Everyone else in the household carries their correct patronymic, so maybe he does, too. Just something to consider if study shows no Bernhard Pederson goldsmith in Norway anywhere.
Bernt is a different name than Bernhard, right?
Here is a Be* Pe* occupation gul* leaving in 1880:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000941389 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 29/11/2016 00:37:59 |
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livtjern
Medium member
Norway
102 Posts |
Posted - 29/11/2016 : 23:38:12
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It can be Bernt, too, but the name is different of Bernhard.
Maybe Bernhard Pedersen could have more name than Bernhard, too.
At the baptism of the son it's standing that the father B was born in 1847, and of Christiania, but not that he was born there... |
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AntonH
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Bernhard Pedersen. ( jeweler from Oslo/Kristiania)
