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cdahl
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 Posted - 18/09/2007 : 21:48:49
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| Due to confusion in the printing of family genealogy, I need to know information concerning Lars Arnts. Moe. He fathered a son, Thomas, b. 3 Nov 1860 with my g-g-grandmother Mali Torgersdtr. Mali later married Tosten Olsen Ingstadkleiv on March 31, 1865. Tosten and his oldest daughter, Gurina, emigrated to USA in 1882. Did Lars Arnts. Moe emigrate to the USA? If so, is it possible to know where he settled. I found Lars in the 1865 census living at Hegra, domicile Sonbjørgplads, as being married to Ragnild Pedersdatter and together had 3 children: Gurina, Peter and Peter Andreas. Mali's parents were Torgeir Olsen Østerås and Karen Torsteinsdtr. Håvenset (Stjørdal) living on Ytre Stagabergsvollen. I would appreciate a clear understanding of Lars Arnts. Moe's family. I think it is interesting that apparently Lars and wife Ragnild named their first daughter Gurina and so did Tosten and Mali name their first daughter Gurina. It has made for lots of confusion. Thanks for your help. |
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Hopkins
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/09/2007 : 07:34:49
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It seems like you already know, but here you have the evidence, Lars Arntsen from Sørkiilmoe was the father of Gurine, see #95 and Thomas, see #102 - they were both "uægte" children (parents not married) recorded on the same page in the church book!
Lars chose to marry Gurines mother, see #4 who already had an "uægte" child, see #70 with Peder Pedersen.
The record of Mali and Tostens marriage is #6
Malis son Thomas was a fosterchild in 1865, see 2909
Lars and Ragnhild had one more son in 1868, see #41 and in 1871 they had a daughter see #45 |
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Edited by - eibache on 19/09/2007 20:48:24 |
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cdahl
Medium member
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 00:39:05
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| A very belated "thank you" to eibache and Hopkins for your great information on Lars Arntson Moe from 2007. I am now trying to connect the correct information on Lars and his family. As Hopkins gave me such valuable info as to Lars marrying Ragnhild Petersdtr. on March 22, 1861. She had a daughter before their marriage and at least 3, if not, 4 more children. The 1865 census shows Gurina, Peter and Peter Andreas. Then your info showed another son born June 15, 1868 and a daughter born July 11, 1871. We know definitely that Lars Moe emigrated to America and settled in the same community as Mali Torgersdtr. and her husband, Tosten Olson. Remember, Mali and Lars Moe had a son, Thomas together. So did Lars emigrate alone or did his family come with him? I'd appreciate any help I can get as I am meeting the first of the week with a decendent of Thomas Larson and they do not have a clear picture of his ancestry. Thank you! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 00:53:11
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Have you looked at this data.
Thomas Moe Larson
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Thomas Moe Larson
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1860
Birth Place: Hegra, Nord-Trøndelag fylke, Norway
Death Date: 7 Sep 1940
Death Place: Bricelyn, Faribault County, Minnesota, USA
Cemetery: Bethany Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Frost, Faribault County, Minnesota, USA
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Gertrude Larson
Father: Lars Arntson Moe
Mother: Mali Olson
Children: Clarence Theodore Larson
Alfred Lloyd Larson
Mabel Amanda Larson
Olaf Leonard Larson
Baby Larson
Baby Larson
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 00:57:16
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Thomas Larson
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas Larson
Age: 39
Birth Date: Nov 1860
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Rome, Faribault, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1868
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Gertrud Larson
Marriage Year: 1897
Years Married: 3
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Larson 39
Gertrud Larson 26
Clarance Larson 2
Alfred L Larson 1
Other census data is also available. All in Rome, Fairbault, Minnesota. 1910 transcribed under Thomas Carson. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 02:16:59
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Lars Moe settled in Fairbault Minnesota as well. In 1900 he was living with a family named Amali.
Lars Moe
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Lars Moe
Age: 61
Birth Date: May 1839
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Seely, Faribault, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Servant
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 02:20:44
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Probably his death in 1915
Lars A Moe
in the Minnesota, Death Index, 1908-200
Name: Lars A Moe
Death Date: 29 Aug 1915
Death County: Faribault
State File Number: 003726
Certificate Number: 003726
Certificate Year: 1915
Record Number: 174173 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 02:42:22
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Probably him in 1895 Minnesota State Census. No sign of any family with him.
Leas Moe
in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Leas Moe
Age: 57
Census Date: 1895
County: Faribault
Locality: Rome
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Race: White
LINE: 19
Roll: V290_57 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 14:05:11
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quote:
As Hopkins? gave me such valuable info as to Lars marrying Ragnhild Petersdtr. on March 22, 1861. She had a daughter before their marriage and at least 3, if not, 4 more children. The 1865 census shows Gurina, Peter and Peter Andreas.
Ragnhilds children were:
Marta Pedersdatter, 1857
Gurina Larsdatter, 1860
Peter Larsen, 1863
Peter Andereas Larsen, 1865
Jon Larsen, 1868
Kirstina Larsdatter, 1871.
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eibache
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 14:44:05
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Widower Lars Arntsen, Ingstad left for "Nord - Amerika" April 21 1886, see #9.
His wife Ragnhild had died Dec 7 1884, see #19.
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eibache
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 15:13:08
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Lars Arntsen was confirmated Oct 9 1853, see #21.
He was then 14 years and 8 months old and his parents were Arnt Eriksen and Guri Larsdatter.
Lars was born Febr 26 1839, see #91.
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Edited by - eibache on 13/11/2016 15:21:53 |
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eibache
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 15:47:04
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Lars had a sister Edrikka Arntsdatter, born April 20 1845 and a sister Gurina Arntsdatter, born May 10 1849.
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JaneC
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 16:28:16
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At first glance Find-a-Grave seems to have confused the family
Lars Arntsen Moe 1839-1915
link
According to the FAG memorial, Lars and Mali had a daughter Anne b 22 Jan 1876. Seems unlikely to be correct, since they had both married other people by then. link
1900 census says Anne immigrated 1881:
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In an earlier Norway Heritage thread (a thread of cdahl's), Jan Peter pointed out that Ancestry.com had a tree with wrong info for this Anne and gave this as correct birth: link
On the church book page posted, showing Lars leaving for North America, my reading of it is that he is accompanied by
* a son Peter b 29 Dec 1875
* a daughter's daughter Randi b 29 Dec 1879 [sic]
Same page, in 1885, Kirstine Larsdatter --?-- is emigrating, b 11 July 1871 (which matches daughter of Lars Arntsen Moe) |
Edited by - JaneC on 13/11/2016 17:37:04 |
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eibache
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 21:04:38
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The daughter Daughter Randi wa Gurinas "uægte" daughter see #9.
Her father Gunnar Nilsen had left for "Amerika".
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JaneC
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Posted - 13/11/2016 : 23:05:19
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Gurina in 1900. link
Gurina in 1910. link
Both say she immigrated 1886. |
Edited by - JaneC on 13/11/2016 23:42:51 |
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Lars Arntsson from Hegra, Nord-Trøndhjem
