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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  00:07:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been unable to make any progress tracing my mother's Norwegian roots prior to emigration to the US.

Hans Moe b 28 Feb 1849 in Norway arri 1869 1900 census
Anna Hanson b Sep 1845 in Norway arr 1868-1869 conflict in 1880/1900 US census
married abt 1870 (30 yrs married per 1900 census.
Lived in Onalaska, La Cross
Had 5 Moe children all3 Nov 1872-28 Aug 1916-1916
Herman 8 Apr 1875-14 Feb 1959 (died Hennepin Minn
Magdalin abt 1879-?
Adolf 10 Dec 1879 - ?
Helga Alide 28 Mar 1885-20 Apr 1919

Anna's parents per the Norwegian Lutheran church 1875-1940 records found for daughter Helga birth appear to show father's name was Hans Hanson and Mother was Karen.

Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  00:19:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A second set of relatives from Norway and living in La Cross were:
Anton Davidson b 28 Apr 1843-5 Feb 1931 arrived 1867 and 1870
Randina Jonsdotter (nickname Regina) also spelled Randine in some records
arrival dates vary 1870-1875 but daughter Hanna was born in Wisc in 1874 as was daughter Josephine in abt 1870
so I suspect 1870 is accurate.

Anton's mother was Caren per the 1900 Census report

They had children:
Josephine Kathrine 1870-
Hanna Bentine 1874-
Clara 30 Jun 1876-25 Nov 1947
Anton abt 1878-
Ludvig abt 16 Jun 1881 -
Anna bMay 1886 -1955
Otto 22 Aug 1891-May 1971

I have some family photos but no living family to help sort out locations in Norway or further detail.

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated! My fathers family pedigree is Swedish with many relatives settling in Bishop Hill Illinois if anyone has questions that I can help with.

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marty
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  00:24:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In case it matters in searches,
Clara Davidson married Martin H Moe
Their daughter Hilma Alida Moe married Dorance J Prolow
Dorance Prolow's heritage was from Mecklenburg Germany but I have little information there as well.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  00:32:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans and Anna Moe in the 1880 census transcribed:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MN4T-M25

Hans Moe family in 1900 census transcription:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMVH-B2H

1905 Wisconsin state census for Hans and Anna Moe:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM3X-BMC

Hans Moe and Anna Simenson marriage in 1871 in Lacrosse, Wisconsin:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRGN-L7X

Son Adolph Moe marrying (his mother is Anna Simenson):
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZQJ-9N8

Son Herman Moe death record transcription (mother's maiden is given as Simonson):
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V4Z3-NDG

Edited by - jkmarler on 12/12/2016 01:06:20
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  00:42:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where did you get the birthdates for Hans and Anna?

From Findagrave?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKC-C4WS

Edited by - jkmarler on 12/12/2016 00:49:26
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  01:04:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since Hans' marriage shows his father as Magus probably Magnus here is a possible migrant in the lists at the Norwegian Digitalarkivet:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000005893

Ho, Ho, Ho, there's an Anne Simens. who resides at Helgeøen leaving the same day as Hans Magnuss.:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000005908

Probably Hans Moe as Hans Magnussen living on Moen in Nes, Hedmark in 1865 (parents are Magnus and Mari):
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038030000089

Hans Magnussen # 16 birthdate 28 Feb 1849:
SAH, Nes prestekontor, K/Ka/L0004: Parish register (official) no. 4, 1852-1886, p. 191
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070122310394

Hans M. Moe and Anne S. Moe share a stone at FAG:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=moe&GSfn=hans&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=51&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=32197104&df=all&

Her birthdate is given as Sept 29, 1846. So I think M. for Magnusson and S for Simensdatter....

Here's a possible Anne Simensdatter in 1865 census:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038049001269

Well the 1865 Anne is likely #6 on this page so not a match, needs more work:
SAH, Tolga prestekontor, K/L0005: Parish register (official) no. 5, 1836-1852, p. 42
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070603440705
eliminated

Edited by - jkmarler on 12/12/2016 17:53:32
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  01:18:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is not clear from your post, but have you identified the origin of Anton Davidson. If not here is a good candidate with the proper birth date.

Anton Jakobus Davidsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927Name: Anton Jakobus Davidsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 apr 1843
Baptism Date: 12 mai 1843 (12 May 1843)
Baptism Place: Nord-Rana, Nordland, Norway
Father: David Jensen
Mother: Karen Nilsdatter
FHL Film Number: 307101

His baptism record in Digitalarkviet. See number 26

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20050427030626

Is this person related to Hans Moe and family?

This might be the above Anton in the 1865 Norwegian Census. Seems to have a Moe connection.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1836&kenr=001&bnr=0025&lnr=000

The family of David Jensen and wife Karen Nilsdatter, minus Anton of course. In the 1865 Census

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1833&kenr=001&bnr=0042&lnr=00

Edited by - AntonH on 12/12/2016 02:02:56
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  01:22:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much. Let me digest the link info before replying further.
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  01:35:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans birth per 1990 census was Feb 1849
Anna was Sep 1845
Both were consistent with age disclosed in other census.

Hans day included in Find a Grave at 28 Feb 1849 as you state

Simonen appears accurate per the marriage license info. My search on Ancestry.com did find it. Thx. Still working on info.
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Edited by - Marty Chilberg on 12/12/2016 06:36:38
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  01:38:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lyndal-Thx I did not know the origin but as you say the b date works.
Daughter Clara Davidson married Martin H Moe b1872. This connection with the Moe's occurred in the US so any historical overlap in Norway is not something I can confirm

Edited by - Marty Chilberg on 12/12/2016 02:28:28
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  01:40:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Excellent possibility for Anne Simens. who resides at Helgeøen leaving the same day as Hans Magnuss"

That might explain why my family records called her Hanson rather than Simens/simonsen. Yet another name change which seems to confound me at times.

The mother name per the Norwegian Lutheran church christening for Helga was said to be Karen. I saw one other reference that the mother was Caren but I'm not finding it yet. I think it was a census

Edited by - Marty Chilberg on 12/12/2016 02:05:10
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  02:09:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This record from Ancestry.com fits fairly well with the Anton Davidson you have posted as well as with the Anton Davidson from Nordland shown above.

Enkemand Anton Davidsen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Enkemand Anton Davidsen
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Date: 28 Apr 1843
Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1874
Marriage Place: La Crosse and Allamakee; Winneshiek, Wisconsin; Iowa
Spouse: Randolf
Father: David Jensen
Mother: Karen Nilsdtr
Church Name: Norwegian Lutheran Church
Church Location: La Crosse County, Wisconsin

Enkemand would indicate that he was a widower when he married Randi

Edited by - AntonH on 12/12/2016 17:30:26
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  02:31:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lyndal40-This info does look promising. I'll spend some time following up. Is there any way I can upload a family portrait here? It might be useful if any pictures on online

Curious if the spouse name of Randolf is common in Norway and if there is a derivative such as Randina or similar

Edited by - Marty Chilberg on 12/12/2016 02:33:44
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  02:45:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking at the original document for the ELCA Marriage record, I think her name is Randi and Randi and Randine are very common Norwegian female names. I see her birth date is given as Sept 13, 1847. The ELCA record also gives her parents names as Jon Larsen and Berit Knudsdatter, which also match the baptism record shown below. The ELCA record is on Ancestry.com so you should be able to look at it.

I see that above you have listed her name as Randi Jonsdatter. Here is a candidate with that name and birth date.

Randi Jonsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Randi Jonsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 13 sep 1847
Baptism Date: 10 okt 1847 (10 Oct 1847)
Baptism Place: Meldal, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father: Jon Larsson
Mother: Berret Knudsdatter
FHL Film Number: 307000

Here is the original baptism record on Dititalarkivet, See number 54

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20050519020458

This looks like the family in 1865 Census, no Randi in the house at that time.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1636&kenr=005&bnr=0036&lnr=000

Confirmation record for Randi, see number 24

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20060925060309

Edited by - AntonH on 12/12/2016 17:27:26
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  15:00:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking at the entries in the ELCA birth / baptism database, found these in a church listed in Lacrosse, Winneshiek, Allamakee counties:

#4
Herman b 16 Apr 1875 bap 16 May 1875
parents: Hans Magnussen and Anne

Adolph twins b 10 Dec 1879 bap 29 Dec 1879
Magda
parents: Hans Magnusson Mo and k.(stands for kone or wife) ____ monsdtr (the binding is very tight and covers the first name and part of the last name of the mother)

#10 Helga Olide b. 4 May 1885 bap 31 May 1885
parents: Hans M. Moe and k. Anne
faddernes (witnesses/ godparents) A. Wold and k Karen; Hans S. Hanson and k wife Syverine

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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/12/2016 :  15:17:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Possibly your Anne Simensdatter, this one born 30 Sept 1843 in Nes:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWBH-BZQ

Probably this family in 1865 census:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038030001392

Interestingly in two other baptisms in the same church that Hans and Anne were baptizing babies, in 1880 and 1882 appears this couple Hans Syverson and wife _____ne Simonsdtr / Syverine ____onsdtr:

They left from Nes Hedmark through Kristiania in 1878:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000435922

They were married in Nes in 1875 couple #13:
SAH, Nes prestekontor, K/Ka/L0004: Parish register (official) no. 4, 1852-1886, p. 297
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070122310501

Here is Severine or Syverine Simonsdatter baptism transcribed:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWBC-W52
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