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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 00:07:17
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I've been unable to make any progress tracing my mother's Norwegian roots prior to emigration to the US.
Hans Moe b 28 Feb 1849 in Norway arri 1869 1900 census Anna Hanson b Sep 1845 in Norway arr 1868-1869 conflict in 1880/1900 US census married abt 1870 (30 yrs married per 1900 census. Lived in Onalaska, La Cross Had 5 Moe children all3 Nov 1872-28 Aug 1916-1916 Herman 8 Apr 1875-14 Feb 1959 (died Hennepin Minn Magdalin abt 1879-? Adolf 10 Dec 1879 - ? Helga Alide 28 Mar 1885-20 Apr 1919
Anna's parents per the Norwegian Lutheran church 1875-1940 records found for daughter Helga birth appear to show father's name was Hans Hanson and Mother was Karen.
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 00:19:28
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A second set of relatives from Norway and living in La Cross were: Anton Davidson b 28 Apr 1843-5 Feb 1931 arrived 1867 and 1870 Randina Jonsdotter (nickname Regina) also spelled Randine in some records arrival dates vary 1870-1875 but daughter Hanna was born in Wisc in 1874 as was daughter Josephine in abt 1870 so I suspect 1870 is accurate.
Anton's mother was Caren per the 1900 Census report
They had children: Josephine Kathrine 1870- Hanna Bentine 1874- Clara 30 Jun 1876-25 Nov 1947 Anton abt 1878- Ludvig abt 16 Jun 1881 - Anna bMay 1886 -1955 Otto 22 Aug 1891-May 1971
I have some family photos but no living family to help sort out locations in Norway or further detail.
Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated! My fathers family pedigree is Swedish with many relatives settling in Bishop Hill Illinois if anyone has questions that I can help with.
best marty |
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 00:24:06
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In case it matters in searches, Clara Davidson married Martin H Moe Their daughter Hilma Alida Moe married Dorance J Prolow Dorance Prolow's heritage was from Mecklenburg Germany but I have little information there as well. |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 01:04:04
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Since Hans' marriage shows his father as Magus probably Magnus here is a possible migrant in the lists at the Norwegian Digitalarkivet: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000005893
Ho, Ho, Ho, there's an Anne Simens. who resides at Helgeøen leaving the same day as Hans Magnuss.: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000005908
Probably Hans Moe as Hans Magnussen living on Moen in Nes, Hedmark in 1865 (parents are Magnus and Mari): https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038030000089
Hans Magnussen # 16 birthdate 28 Feb 1849: SAH, Nes prestekontor, K/Ka/L0004: Parish register (official) no. 4, 1852-1886, p. 191 Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070122310394
Hans M. Moe and Anne S. Moe share a stone at FAG: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=moe&GSfn=hans&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=51&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=32197104&df=all&
Her birthdate is given as Sept 29, 1846. So I think M. for Magnusson and S for Simensdatter....
Here's a possible Anne Simensdatter in 1865 census: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038049001269
Well the 1865 Anne is likely #6 on this page so not a match, needs more work: SAH, Tolga prestekontor, K/L0005: Parish register (official) no. 5, 1836-1852, p. 42 Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070603440705
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Edited by - jkmarler on 12/12/2016 17:53:32 |
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AntonH
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 01:22:40
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Thank you very much. Let me digest the link info before replying further. best |
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 01:35:27
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Hans birth per 1990 census was Feb 1849 Anna was Sep 1845 Both were consistent with age disclosed in other census.
Hans day included in Find a Grave at 28 Feb 1849 as you state
Simonen appears accurate per the marriage license info. My search on Ancestry.com did find it. Thx. Still working on info. best
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Edited by - Marty Chilberg on 12/12/2016 06:36:38 |
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 01:38:21
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Lyndal-Thx I did not know the origin but as you say the b date works. Daughter Clara Davidson married Martin H Moe b1872. This connection with the Moe's occurred in the US so any historical overlap in Norway is not something I can confirm |
Edited by - Marty Chilberg on 12/12/2016 02:28:28 |
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 01:40:55
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"Excellent possibility for Anne Simens. who resides at Helgeøen leaving the same day as Hans Magnuss"
That might explain why my family records called her Hanson rather than Simens/simonsen. Yet another name change which seems to confound me at times.
The mother name per the Norwegian Lutheran church christening for Helga was said to be Karen. I saw one other reference that the mother was Caren but I'm not finding it yet. I think it was a census |
Edited by - Marty Chilberg on 12/12/2016 02:05:10 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 02:09:41
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This record from Ancestry.com fits fairly well with the Anton Davidson you have posted as well as with the Anton Davidson from Nordland shown above.
Enkemand Anton Davidsen in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: Enkemand Anton Davidsen Event Type: Marriage Birth Date: 28 Apr 1843 Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1874 Marriage Place: La Crosse and Allamakee; Winneshiek, Wisconsin; Iowa Spouse: Randolf Father: David Jensen Mother: Karen Nilsdtr Church Name: Norwegian Lutheran Church Church Location: La Crosse County, Wisconsin
Enkemand would indicate that he was a widower when he married Randi |
Edited by - AntonH on 12/12/2016 17:30:26 |
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Marty Chilberg
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 02:31:42
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Lyndal40-This info does look promising. I'll spend some time following up. Is there any way I can upload a family portrait here? It might be useful if any pictures on online
Curious if the spouse name of Randolf is common in Norway and if there is a derivative such as Randina or similar |
Edited by - Marty Chilberg on 12/12/2016 02:33:44 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 02:45:07
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Looking at the original document for the ELCA Marriage record, I think her name is Randi and Randi and Randine are very common Norwegian female names. I see her birth date is given as Sept 13, 1847. The ELCA record also gives her parents names as Jon Larsen and Berit Knudsdatter, which also match the baptism record shown below. The ELCA record is on Ancestry.com so you should be able to look at it.
I see that above you have listed her name as Randi Jonsdatter. Here is a candidate with that name and birth date.
Randi Jonsdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Randi Jonsdatter Gender: Female Birth Date: 13 sep 1847 Baptism Date: 10 okt 1847 (10 Oct 1847) Baptism Place: Meldal, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway Father: Jon Larsson Mother: Berret Knudsdatter FHL Film Number: 307000
Here is the original baptism record on Dititalarkivet, See number 54
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20050519020458
This looks like the family in 1865 Census, no Randi in the house at that time.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1636&kenr=005&bnr=0036&lnr=000
Confirmation record for Randi, see number 24
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20060925060309 |
Edited by - AntonH on 12/12/2016 17:27:26 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/12/2016 : 15:00:44
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Looking at the entries in the ELCA birth / baptism database, found these in a church listed in Lacrosse, Winneshiek, Allamakee counties:
#4 Herman b 16 Apr 1875 bap 16 May 1875 parents: Hans Magnussen and Anne
Adolph twins b 10 Dec 1879 bap 29 Dec 1879 Magda parents: Hans Magnusson Mo and k.(stands for kone or wife) ____ monsdtr (the binding is very tight and covers the first name and part of the last name of the mother)
#10 Helga Olide b. 4 May 1885 bap 31 May 1885 parents: Hans M. Moe and k. Anne faddernes (witnesses/ godparents) A. Wold and k Karen; Hans S. Hanson and k wife Syverine
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jkmarler
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