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meghanf
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 Posted - 30/01/2017 : 21:23:06
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Hello,
I've found a parish death record for an ancestor of mine, Torsten Herbrandsen Brende, but I am having trouble translating the cause of death. He was very young, 27 years, so I am curious how he died.
The link is to the Norway digital archives record, Torsten is number 10 under the 1868 heading.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/1099/286
Thanks for any help! |
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 30/01/2017 : 23:09:12
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It seems that Torsten died of "Lungetĉring" Tuberculosis and "Koldbrand" Gangrene
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/01/2017 : 23:15:54
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/01/2017 : 23:56:05
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Torsten was a black smith, his father Herbrand was employed as a carpenter at Kongsberg Silver Mines
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meghanf
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 01:45:47
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Wow, thank you both! I don't think I ever would have figured that out on my own.
Kaarto - I found the 1865 census for Torsten that said he was a blacksmith, but I didn't know Herbrand worked as a carpenter at the Kongsberg Silver Mines, I thought he was a farmer? Can you let me know where you found that information? Herbrand's daughter Anna Marie Herbrandsdatter (Hanson when she immigrated to America) is my 2x great grandmother.
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vivi
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Norway
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 11:00:27
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I'll tell you where the info is coming from later today. I also have a photo of the farm.
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vivi
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Norway
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 11:52:35
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Hi
In "Sandsvĉrs bygdebok" it is written that Herbrand born 1806, carpenter at the Silverworks married 1836 Marte Margrete Torstensdatter Brenne.
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meghanf
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 15:20:35
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| Thank you, I'd love to hear more from the book on this family and see the farm photo. I never thought I'd be able to trace my family past Anna Marie's immigration to America so finding her family so well established in Norway has been really fun. Thank you for the information! |
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meghanf
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 15:33:52
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vivi - Thank you for the youtube video link of the Kongsberg church, I also looked at the Hedenstad church video. I'd love to visit Norway in person some day, and these videos are such a treat in the meantime :) Thank you!
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 16:28:35
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Most of the info comes from what is called a "Bygdebok" a book where families, their ancestors and farms are mentioned.
The documents from the silver mines are kept in the archives, not online, and contains the names of the workers, occupation, in what mine they worked, salary etc.
The largest mine "Kongens Gruve" The king's mine, is open for tourists. A train takes you 2300 meter into the mountain to the great hall and a guided trip. The mine is 1070 meter deep.
The carpenters also worked inside the mines, building ledges, ladders, reinforced mines with timber, building floors etc. It was hard work.
The total number of mines where ca 300.
Inside the kings mine, I hope the video works Link
Info from the farms coming later.
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 19:04:31
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Originally posted by vivi
Hi
Looks like he was baptized there too even though his baptizm is registered in Sandsvĉr; no 24:
SAKO, Sandsvĉr kirkebĝker, F/Fa/L0004: Ministerialbok nr. I 4, 1817-1839, s. 678-679
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111010547
He was bapt. in Kongsberg church because he was born on farm Hassel Store (Big Hassel) in Kongsberg (outside the town next to Sandsvĉr) called Kongsberg Land district
where Herbrand Christensen Hvam was "Inderste" renter with his own household from 1839-42.
Herbrand was born on farm Hvam in Sandsvĉr 1806 and settled down with the family on farm Brende, todays Brenne from 1846-75
Kongsberg church is Norway's largest church link
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Kċarto
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 19:45:14
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The photo, small size, show Store Hassel where Torsten Herbrandsen Brende was born April 7. 1839 link
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Kċarto
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 21:19:51
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The reason Herbrand got Northern Brende was that his wife Marte Margrete Torstensdatter b. ca 1814 was daughter to Sergeant Torsten Hansen Grosvold 1784-1862 and Marit Anundsdatter Brende 1785-1838 on Southern Brende. I believe Marit's family has lived on Brende since the 1600s. Brende/Brenne was probably settled short after the Viking age.
Brende means to burn, the first settles cultivated the land by setting fire on the trees and underbushes which gave good fertilizer to sow grain.
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Edited by - Kċarto on 31/01/2017 21:20:17 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 21:28:39
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Sergeant Torsten Hansen Grosvold was enlisted soldier (ca 1805-1810, plus/minus) in Kongsbergske company, First National Batallion, earlier first Akerhusske infantry Regiment.
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meghanf
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Posted - 31/01/2017 : 21:48:10
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Thank you Kaarto, this is so interesting. Marthe Margrete Torstensdatter immigrated to America, after the death of Herbrand, with many of her children (including my 2x great grandmother, Anna Marie) and they all took the last name Hansen (or Hanson). I'm thinking now that it must have come from Marthe's father Tosten Hansen. I also saw the name Brende (or Brenne) come up a lot as a middle name for some of Marthe's children. This is great information, I am adding to my tree, thank you again!
Are you a relation to this family? Do you know where in the Sandsvaer area the farm at southern Brende would have been located? |
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