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Mari Sylte Ringstad
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Posted - 04/03/2017 : 17:42:23
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Hello from Norway! I am looking after descendants in the USA after Rønnaug Iversdatter Hammer, born in 1805 at the Sylte farm in Kvikne, Norway. She married Tjøstel Hansen Hammer, and moved to Hammer in Lalm, Norway. They got six children. In 1870, August 12´th, Rønnaug left Norway to emigrate to America together with her son Jacob T. Hammer, her daughter in law, Ragnhild, their son Theodore (3 months old), Rønnaug`s daughter Ingeborg, and Ingeborg´s son Hans Christensen (5 or 6 years old). In the emigration book in Norway it says they were going to Mc Gregor. I have found at "Find a Grave" one grave of a man named Jacob Hammer in Washington. Does anyone know#347; anything more? Rønnaug was a cousin of my great great grandfather. I am so happy if someone knows anything more! Sorry about my bad spelling! Mari Sylte Ringstad, Brøttum, Norway |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2017 : 20:36:04
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This would seem to be his marriage record from Ancestry.com
Jacob Tjostelsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Jacob Tjostelsen Gender: Male Age: 28 Birth Date: 1842 Marriage Date: 11 jun 1870 Marriage Place: Vaagaa,Opland,Norway Father: Tjostel Hansen Spouse: Ragnild Hansdr FHL Film Number: 307269
The Jacob T Hammer of Washington State seems to be a fairly good match. Arrival 1870, Birth year 1842
Jacob T Hammer in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Jacob T Hammer Age: 77 Birth Year: abt 1843 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1920: Woodinville, King, Washington House Number: Farm Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1870 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Elisabeth Hammer Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Native Tongue: Norwegian Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Farmer Industry: Farm Employment Field: Own Account Home Owned or Rented: Own Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged Naturalization Status: Naturalized Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jacob T Hammer 77 Elisabeth Hammer 70 Peter A Johnson 41 |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/03/2017 23:19:17 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/03/2017 : 21:21:09
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Seems as if they did live in Minnesota a short time. This is a baptism record for a son John born in 1883 in Minnesota. Odin is in Watonwan County in Minnesota. However this birth record does not seem to match any of the Census record. No son named John is listed. A son named Hans J is listed but he was born in 1879.
Ranghild Hammer in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: Ranghild Hammer Spouse: Jakob T Hammer Church Name: St Olaf Lutheran Church Location: Odin, Minnesota |
Edited by - AntonH on 04/03/2017 21:44:18 |
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/03/2017 : 21:54:39
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In the 1880 US Census there is a Jac T Hammer living in Martin County Minnesota, also in the far south of Minnesota. The census lists Theodore as being born in Minnesota but that could be incorrect.
In fact there are several families with the last name Hammer living in Martin County for the 1880 Census. Some of these families also seem to end up in the state of Washington in the 1900's. The family living next to the Jac T Hammer family is named Lars (Louis) Hammer and I will discuss below.
Jac T. Hammer in the 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Jac T. Hammer Age: 38 Birth Year: abt 1842 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1880: Cedar, Martin, Minnesota Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Regina Hammer Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Household Members: Name Age Jac T. Hammer 38 Regina Hammer 33 Theodore Hammer 10 Regina Hammer 7 Annie Hammer 6 Helen Hammer 5 Ingebor Hammer 3 Hans Hammer 1
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/03/2017 : 22:34:53
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Living in Odin, Watonwan, Minnesota in 1880 is this family also named Hammer.
H.K. Hammer in the 1880 United States Federal Census Name: H.K. Hammer Age: 50 Birth Year: abt 1830 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1880: Odin, Watonwan, Minnesota Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Maridt Hammer Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Household Members: Name Age H.K. Hammer 50 Maridt Hammer 51 Emma Hammer 22 John Hammer 19 Sophie Hammer 16 Charley Hammer 14 Hans C. Hammer 15
It is interesting that there is a son? named Hans C Hammer born in Norway in 1865 whereas all of the children above him are born in Minnesota. So I am thinking that this is likely Hans Christian son of Rønnaug`s daughter Ingeborg,
Also it is likely that H K Hammer is likely
Hans Tjostolvsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Hans Tjostolvsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 23 jun 1830 Baptism Date: 11 jul 1830 Baptism Place: Vaagaa,Opland,Norway Father: Tjostel Hansen Mother: Ronnog Iversdr FHL Film Number: 125632
And he is the brother of Ingeborg and thus the uncle of Hans Christian.
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/03/2017 : 22:46:04
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This family is living next to Jac T Hammer in Martin County Minnesota in the 1880 Census.
Louis H. Hammer in the 1880 United States Federal Census Name: Louis H. Hammer Age: 26 Birth Year: abt 1854 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1880: Cedar, Martin, Minnesota Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Isabel Hammer Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Nor Household Members: Name Age Louis H. Hammer 26 Isabel Hammer 25 Hans Hammer 3 Mary B. Hammer 1
The Find-A-Grave site lists Lars (Louis) Hammer as the son of H. K. Hammer and Marit Roe. The couple living with children in Odin as shown above.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=129741716&ref=acom
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/03/2017 : 00:40:11
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Here is the family arrival into America. It looks like Rønnaug`s daughter Ingeborg brought more than Hans C with her.
Passengers were
Jakob 28 Ragnhild Hansdatter 22 Rønnaug Iversdatter 68 Ingeborg Kjøstelsen 44 Svend Paulsen 11 Hans " 5 Theodore " Infant
The person who transcribed the ship passengers added the last name of Pauline to all of the children. The original passenger listing does not do but used " marks behind their names.
Jacob Kjostelsen in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Jacob Kjostelsen Gender: Male Age: 28 Birth Year: abt 1842 Date of Arrival: 28 Aug 1870 Vessel: Austrian Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec, Canada Port of Departure: Dublin, Ireland; Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000409689
NHDC 1865
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070603530566 |
Edited by - AntonH on 09/03/2017 17:02:42 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/03/2017 : 01:12:05
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Based on the birth year and the arrival year it is likely that this is the infant Teodor son of Ragnhild. Some other census records give him a later birth year of 1871 or 1873 so it is worth being cautious. However he is located in King County Washington where a lot of other Hammer folk ended up.
Theodore J Hammer in the 1930 United States Federal Census Name: Theodore J Hammer Birth Year: abt 1870 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: Norway Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1930: Seattle, King, Washington Map of Home: View Map Street address: 91 E E Thomas Block: 3776 House Number in Cities or Towns: 912 Dwelling Number: 5 Family Number: 41 Home Owned or Rented: Rented Home Value: 22.50 Radio Set: No Lives on Farm: No Age at First Marriage: 27 Attended School: No Able to Read and Write: Yes Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Language Spoken: Norwegian Immigration Year: 1870 Naturalization: Naturalized Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Logger Industry: In loggin Camp Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker Employment: Yes Household Members: Name Age Theodore J Hammer 60 Ella L Hammer 51 Gladis M Hammer 27 Jessie D Johnson 47
Based on this death record I would say it is very likely that this is the correct Theodore
Theodore J. Hammer in the Washington, Select Death Certificates, 1907-1960 Name: Theodore J. Hammer Gender: Male Age: 83 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Death Date: 11 Mar 1954 Death Place: Seattle, King, Washington Father: Jacob T. Hammer FHL Film Number: 2033325 Reference ID: 4310 |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/03/2017 01:16:41 |
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Mari Sylte Ringstad
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Norway
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Posted - 05/03/2017 : 03:35:29
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WOW! I am just amazed! Thank YOU very much for all the information! It s really interesting news! Really interesting that Ingeborg T. Hammer in the list seems to have to sons? I have not heard about Svend before. Both sons, Svend and Hans, has the middlename Paulsen, not Christensen. That confuse me. |
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Edited by - Mari Sylte Ringstad on 05/03/2017 04:07:18 |
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AntonH
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Mari Sylte Ringstad
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Norway
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Posted - 06/03/2017 : 13:24:22
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Thank you so much for new information! I`ll now try to figure out more about Svend Paulsen`s parents, and what happened with Svend in America. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/03/2017 : 19:16:10
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Results of my search on Ancestry.com shows the following children for Tjøstel Hansen and Rønnaug Iversdatter.
Ingeborg born 26 Oct, 1826
Hans born 23 June 1830
Marit born 3 July, 1833
Jakob born 5 May, 1842
Gunild born 9 April 1846
Most of the family here in 1865 Norwegian Census.
NHDC 1865 |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/03/2017 19:26:16 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/03/2017 : 20:48:35
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There is an obit for Theodore J. Hammer in the 23 March 1954 Seattle Daily Times. Excerpts are: ",,,A native of Norway , Mr. Hammer went to Minneapolis when an infant. He came to Seattle with his parents Mr. and Mrs. Jacob Hammer in the late 1870s...."
Survivors are wife Ella, 2 daughters Mrs. Ralph Leber Seattle, Mrs. Norman Myre Silverdale; a brother and 4 sisters not named |
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Mari Sylte Ringstad
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Posted - 06/03/2017 : 22:39:43
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Thank you both of you - this is so useful |
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