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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 30/03/2017 : 20:19:28
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Anne K Storessther is of course the same as Ane Christoffersdatter Storrød-Sæter.
Many descendants of her lives in the same area of Støren today, incl on the farm Storrød-Sæter. I found a great grandchild of Ane's brother Anders Kristoffersen Storrøsæter (1872-1861) on facebook. |
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Pgalb
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Posted - 30/03/2017 : 21:13:29
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| The records pertaining to Robert and father, Edwin Holen appear to be connected to Edwin Nyhagen. How is it possible that they were the same person even though they match on some things? Edwin Nyhagen would of had to lead a double life? It's hard to put this together. |
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Pgalb
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Posted - 30/03/2017 : 21:16:59
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| Good to know about many relatives living in Storen today. Thank you for that find jwiborg. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/03/2017 : 23:07:30
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Jackie you posted
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Interesting, too is that Edwin Nyhagen was born in Renville Minnesot
I have not seen that, could you clarify where that is found. Of interest because according to this record Edwin Otis Holen was born in Minneapolis.
Maybe never mind, I found the WWI Draft Registration Card for a Edwin W Nyhagen born 8 Aug 1892 where he states that he was born in Renvillle, Minn. USA.
And here is the WWII Card for Edwin Otis Holen
Edwin Otis Holen
in the U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Edwin Otis Holen
Age: 50
Race: White
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1892
Birth Place: Hennepin, Minnesota, USA
Residence Year: 1942
Residence: Fountain, Indiana, USA
I am getting into this part of the discussion a little late so excuse me if I stumble along a little here, but it seems difficult to believe that Edwin Otis Holen is the same person as Edwin Nyhagen.
The Find-A-Grave for Robert Glenn Holen has this to say
"He was the son of August and Ellen Johnson Hayes. He married Velma Jean Olson Allen on November 18, 1961 in Rockville, Indiana."
I suppose that FAG site could be wrong and Robert is the son of Ellen Johnson's second marriage.
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Edited by - AntonH on 31/03/2017 00:12:04 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/03/2017 : 23:39:31
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This looks like the August and Ellen Hayes family in the 1920 Census. They do have a son named Robert born abt 1817 that might fit Robert Glenn. I would also speculate that daughter Phyllis is shown here as baby Hayes.
1920
I think that Margaret J is the only child of Edward Holen and Ellen. Here in the 1930 Census in Indiana.
1930
That still does not settle the issue of Edwin Nyhagen and Edward Holen.
Although I did notice on the second Indiana marriage (1944) of Edward Otis Holen that he lists he's father as Nyhagen Holen as Jackie reported earlier and his mother as Margret Bold, I wonder if that is actually Margaret Vold. |
Edited by - AntonH on 31/03/2017 02:29:50 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/03/2017 : 01:56:59
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Things do get strange with this topic.
Posted by Jackie
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And apparently not done in 1964 from Fergus Falls newspaper:
"Marriage Licenses Edwin Otis Holen, 71, and Myrtle Belle Viken, 66, both of Detroit Lakes Route"
It appears that Myrtle Viken was first married to Edwin Viken. I think that Edwin Viken is the son of Eric Viken (Erik Eriksen Viken) and Berit Viken whose maiden name was Berit Olsdatter Kattevold.
Berit Olsdatter Kattevold is the sister of Margrete Olsdatter Kattevold who was likely the wife of Ivar Nyhagen.
Edwin Viken
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Edwin Viken
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1883
Baptism Date: 10 Jun 1883
Baptism Place: Granite Falls, Minnesota
Father: Erik Viken
Mother: Bent Viken
Church Name: Our Savior's Lutheran Church
Church Location: Sacred Heart, Minnesota
Edwin died 23 Apr 1954 |
Edited by - AntonH on 31/03/2017 01:58:15 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 31/03/2017 : 02:34:45
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As posted on page 1,
1900 census
Cady, Saint Croix, Wisconsin
Edwin O Nyhagen born August 1892 Minnesota
living with parents and siblings: link
As posted page 5
1900 census
Blue Mounds, Pope, Minnesota
Edwin Holten born June 1893 Minnesota
adopted son of Hans and Annie Grendsen, both born abt 1848 Norway
link
I'm behind in the discussion...confusing.
Obviously the above records list two different boys. But Edwin Otis Holten WWII draft registration lists him born August 1892 - so is the question under consideration whether Edwin Holten the adopted son is indeed the same as Edwin Otis Holten in later records?
In other words, the 1900 census in Blue Mounds cannot be accepted unconditionally as correct for Edwin Otis Holten.
Is that the hitch? |
Edited by - JaneC on 31/03/2017 02:55:59 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/03/2017 : 02:47:16
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Jackie you posted
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Interesting, too is that Edwin Nyhagen was born in Renville Minnesot
I have not seen that, could you clarify where that is found. Of interest because according to this record Edwin Otis Holen was born in Minneapolis.
Maybe never mind, I found the WWI Draft Registration Card for a Edwin W Nyhagen born 8 Aug 1892 where he states that he was born in Renvillle, Minn. USA.
And here is the WWII Card for Edwin Otis Holen
Edwin Otis Holen
in the U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Edwin Otis Holen
Age: 50
Race: White
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1892
Birth Place: Hennepin, Minnesota, USA
Residence Year: 1942
Residence: Fountain, Indiana, USA
I am getting into this part of the discussion a little late so excuse me if I stumble along a little here, but it seems difficult to believe that Edwin Otis Holen is the same person as Edwin Nyhagen.
The Find-A-Grave for Robert Glenn Holen has this to say
"He was the son of August and Ellen Johnson Hayes. He married Velma Jean Olson Allen on November 18, 1961 in Rockville, Indiana."
I suppose that FAG site could be wrong and Robert is the son of Ellen Johnson's second marriage.
FAG
Okay here is the WWI draft reg card of Edwin Nyhagen, birthdate 8 Aug 1892. Perhaps geography is in play here, since his registration was in Polk county, Wisconsin and that is where the Hayes' were in 1920?:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8QB-TXZ
Robert Holten was married at least 3 times
As to the question about Edwin Nyhagen vs Edwin Holten, they do have a birthdate in common, and the 1st marriage record in Indiana gives Edwin Holten's parents as Iver Holten and Maggie Bold, remarkably like Iver Nyhagen and Magrit Vold. The next marriage muddies up the father's name as Nyhagen Holten. And perhaps if the geography permits it maybe Edwin Nyhagen had an opportunity to meet Ellen Johnson Hayes?
Edwin's obituary might help with information about his survivors. Both of Edwin's sister lived longer than he did, so perhaps they might be mentioned as survivors. And of course the surviving children might also be mentioned.
Perhaps Edwin was an adopted child of the Nyhagens? I haven't found anything about the ultimate fate of Iver's and Margit's. She died before he but where did they end up. In one of his marriages in Indiana, Edwin Holten says his father is deceased in Minnesota (and also says his mother was Finnish, so might be off.) |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/03/2017 : 02:56:53
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Robert Holten's birth record:
Name: Hayes, Robert Glen
Birth Certificate Index | Text | 1916-21730
Birth: November 14, 1916
County of Birth: Nobles County, Minnesota, United States
Mother's Maiden Name: Johnoan |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/03/2017 : 03:18:32
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An attempt to keep at least some of it straight in my head
Wives of Edwin Nyhagen (Edward Otis Holen) b 1892
Anna Christina Moen m 1915
Ellen Johnson Hayes m abt 1925
Mary Elizabeth Gebhart Coate Daugherty m 1932 Married James Daugherty in 1945
Maezy Ellen Stokes Asbury m 1944
Myrtle Viken m 1964 |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/04/2017 00:58:23 |
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Pgalb
Medium member
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80 Posts |
Posted - 31/03/2017 : 03:49:40
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It seems like we have two Edwin Otis Holen (one born in Hennepin MN as Edwin Otis Holen). The other, born in Renville, MN as Edwin Nyhagen who may have changed his name to Edwin Otis Holen after he left his first family in the 1920's. There is good reason to believe that Edwin Nyhagen was not adopted and was born to Iver and Margrit Vold Nyhagen, whose sister lived in Renville, Mn at the time. From the above post, Margarit's sister, Berit is also the former mother-in-law to Edwin's last wife, Myrtle.
It sounds like the two Edwin's families crossed paths in the 1920's in Polk county, Wi. Both Edwin's had draft cards. It's all pretty complicated. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/03/2017 : 05:17:03
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This is the lat Census that I have come across for Edwin Nyhagen. After this he is either dead or morphs into Edward Otis Holen.
Edvin Nydazen
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Edvin Nydazen
[Edwin Wydegen]
[Edwin Nyerges]
Age: 27
Birth Year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Minnesota
Home in 1920: Luck, Polk, Wisconsin
House Number: Farm
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Anna Nydazen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Farmer
Industry: Daing
Employment Field: Own Account
Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edvin Nydazen 27
Anna Nydazen 27
Glorie Nydazen 3
Clifford Nydazen 1
Ole Mohn 49
Dora Peterson 16
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jkmarler
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Pgalb
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Posted - 31/03/2017 : 13:59:37
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| Comparing the signatures on the two draft cards -- WW1 for Edwin Nyhagen and WW2 for Edwin Otis Holen -- "Edwin" is identical. It might be a stretch. The above questions remain, why would he choose that name for his new identity? If he was adopted, maybe, but so far, there isn't evidence of that. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 31/03/2017 : 14:12:57
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Here is Edwin Otis Holen's death index listing, he died in Florida:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VVQR-2FF
What's the source for Iver Nyhagen's death in 1940? |
Edited by - jkmarler on 31/03/2017 14:14:10 |
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Ivar Nyhagen (1864-1940)
