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jkmarler
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 06/04/2017 : 20:02:18
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Except it says she was born in Strinden and her father is "soldat".
And here is her baptism in Strinden (Bakkelandet) #28:
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 606/L0292: Parish register (official) no. 606A07, 1856-1865, p. 157
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20050609010611
So whew....
And the father was bachelor and baker assistent Anton Andersen Rønning born in Trondheim. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 20:06:53
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quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
Except it says she was born in Strinden and her father is "soldat".
And here is her baptism in Strinden (Bakkelandet) #28:
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 606/L0292: Parish register (official) no. 606A07, 1856-1865, p. 157
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20050609010611
So whew....
And the father was bachelor and baker assistent Anton Andersen Rønning born in Trondheim.
Perhaps beck to Ørland and Vikna from where they emigrated  |
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tmlynch
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 20:09:59
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Yes, but I have not examined them closely. I think the German description is wrong. Here is Anna, I will try and put together the others.
Anna Ronne
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Anna Ronne
Arrival Date: 6 May 1887
Birth Date: abt 1863
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: Chicago, Illinois
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of Richmond
I think this Anna Ronne is truly German. The destination here is stated as Chicago, IL. The Ronne family emigrated in February, 1887, April, 1887 and May, 1887 with the majority migrating in April, 1887.
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/sok/3/100094?fornavn=&etternavn=&kjonn=&bosted=Vigten&fodestad=&fodselsdato=&fodselsaar=&alder=&stilling_stand=&familiestilling=&utreisedato=&reisemal=Emerson%2C Manitoba&ankomstdato=&linje=&skip=&agent=&pass=&nytt_yrke=&aarsak=&utreisehavn=&ekspdato=&kontraktdato=&herred=&fogderi=&prgjeld= |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 22:38:27
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Maybe, that was my first impression as well when I looked at the entry for Anna alone but after Jackie asked the question I went back and I looked more carefully at the original manifest and now I think my original
conclusion was wrong. Here is a table with the list of Emigrants from Trondheim that was posted on page 1 by Hopkins. Below that a list of the passengers from the Ancestry.com records.
Only the first person in the list from the Ancestry.com manifest has the name Ronne the rest have a check mark after their name.
Emigrants from Trondheim
Anton Rønne 50
Lornetse Rønne 48
Johanne Rønne 18
Adolf Rønne 11.75
Sophie Rønne 11.75
Kaia Rønne 8
Adolf Ols. 20
Anna Ols. 22
Adolf Ols. 1
Passenger on ship from original manifest ancestry.com
Anthon Ronne 50
Lorann 48
Johana 18 crossed out and 40 written in
Alof 11 1/2
Sophi 9
Kale 11
Olson 20
Anna 26
Awolf 6
Here is another link to the Emigrater fra Trondheim oringally posted by Hopkins
Link
Here is the transcribed record for Anton Rønne from Ancestry.com. Ancestry transcribed it a little differently than I did
Auther Ronne
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Auther Ronne
Arrival Date: 6 May 1887
Birth Date: abt 1837
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: Chicago, Illinois
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of Richmond
For there to be two families with nearly identical names, ages and all nine leaving Europe together in 1887 would be quite a coincidence. I think the Germans call that "doppelganger" |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/04/2017 23:12:20 |
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tmlynch
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 23:00:04
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Maybe, that was my first impression when I looked at the entry for Anna alone but after Jackie asked the question I went back I looked more carefully at the original manifest and now I think my original
concluions wa wrong. Here is a table with the list of Emigrants from Trondheim that was posted on page 1 by Hipkins. Next to that a list of the passengers from the Ancestry.com records.
Only the first person in the list from the Ancestry.com manifest has the name Ronne the rest have a check mark after their name.
Emigrants fra Trondheim Passengers on Ship
Anton Rønne 50 Anthon Ronne 50
Lornetse Rønne 48 Lorann 48
Johanne Rønne 18 Johana 18 40 written in
Adolf Rønne 11.75 Alof 11 1/2
Sophie Rønne 11.75 Sophi 9
Kaia Rønne 8 Kale 11
Adolf Ols. 20 Olson 20
Anna Ols. 22 Anna 26
Adolf Ols. 1 Awolf 6
Wow! lyndal40 you are tenacious and expert researcher. I have never been able to locate any "Ronne" travel other than Anders Ronne.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GP17-9JH?mode=g&i=192&cc=1921481
Also, I have only been able to trace Anton, Lorentse, Martin, Henry and Kaia Ronne to Minnesota. I have been unable to trace any "Ronne", or, likely "Olson" to North Dakota. Since my grandmothers maiden name was Olson/Olsen, the closest I have been able to come is "Anna Ols." who emigrated at the same time as Anton and Lorentse Ronne. This is why I was hoping Anna Ols. = Anna Ronne.
Since I have allowed my Ancestry member ship to lapse, I will have to wait to discover the same records as you have. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 23:06:59
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I changed the table up a little to make it a little easier to read and added some further information. You can thank Jackie for making me go back and look at the data that I had dismissed for the very reasons you stated.
I think that this information adds further to your theory. I think it is very likely that the daughter of Anton Andersen Ronnie named Anna Ludvika had a chid with a Adolf Olsen and those three accompanied the father and mother of Anna to America as part of the group of nine. |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/04/2017 23:12:55 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 23:55:47
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it was total 106 persons with family name Rønne who em. to America via dep. port Trondheim. Most of them was from Ørland, 10 from Vigten.
Anna Ludvika had two brothers born in Vigten; Anders Edvard Nov. 23. 1857 and Martin Joakim Feb. 4. 1865.
The parents sold Rønne 1865 and settled down in Vigten. Anders Rønne age 29 (most likely Annas brother b. -57) em. from Vigten 1887, dep. Trondheim Mai 4.ca 14 days after Anton, Lorentse................ Dest for all 10;Emerson, Manitoba, ticket prepaid in America for Anders.
Anders was married with Emma Rønne, two children; Augusta age 3 and Anna 10 mths. They came to Manitoba via Port Arthur. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/04/2017 : 00:38:03
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Here is another remotely possible, again not two Adolph in family but father Adolph and son Anton about the right ages in 1910 in Chicago:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKCY-89S
But no apparent North Dakota connection. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/04/2017 : 01:34:13
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Following up on the post by Kåre, here is the arrival of Anders Rønne, wife Emma and two children.
Ands Ronne
in the Pennsylvania, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1800-1962
Name: Ands Ronne
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 29
Birth Date: abt 1858
Birth Place: Norway
Last Residence: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 23 May 1887
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Ship: British King
On that same ship is another Rønne, John Gade Rønne.
John gade Ronne
in the Pennsylvania, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1800-1962
Name: John gade Ronne
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1863
Birth Place: Norway
Last Residence: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 23 May 1887
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Ship: British King
Brother to Anna Gade who married Adolf Rønne?
In the 1900 Census John Gade is single living in Washington and living with his niece Ann Ronney
Family Search 1900
Died in 1929
John Gade
in the U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
Name: John Gade
Age: 55
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1864
Birth Place: Trondhjem, Norway
Residence Place: Washington
Passport Issue Date: 27 Mar 1920
Has Photo: Yes
Certificate Number: 2812
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Edited by - AntonH on 07/04/2017 02:05:46 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/04/2017 : 04:16:24
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I do not think that this has been posted already but Hulda was living with Anton and Lorentse in the 1895 Minnesota Census.
Hulda Ronne
in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Hulda Ronne
Age: 2
Census Date: 1895
County: Polk
Locality: Badger
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Race: White
LINE: 40
Roll: V290_82
Others in the family are
Anton Ronne age 59
Lawrence Ronne age 64
Kaia Ronne age 19
Living next to this family is another Ronne family
Henry Ronne age 26
Emma Ronne age 29
Agnes Ronne age 2 |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/04/2017 04:29:00 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/04/2017 : 12:50:01
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Here is the family on Hansvig 31 Dec 1875:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/52403/704
Henry apparently married twice this from MOMS:
POLK I/397
12/18/1899
RONNE, HENRY
BJELLAND, CARIE
POLK E/78
11/08/1891
RONNE, HENRY
ANDERSON, EMMA
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/04/2017 : 13:55:31
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1900 in Badger, Polk, Minnesota
Henry and Carrie Ronne with blended family
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jkmarler
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Adolf Ols.(20y), Anna Ols.(24y), Adolf Ols.(1m)
