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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 18/04/2017 : 18:20:32
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He was born in Verdal in North-Trøndelag, and according to the Emigrants via Trondheim 1867 - 1930, he left for Duluth in MN September 5, 1905. Will you be able to find information about him in US and what happened to his life there? Best regards, Anne B.
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/04/2017 : 23:00:02
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Here is a candidate. The name is right, but the birth year is off.
John A Lerstad in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: John A Lerstad Birth Date: 1885 Death Date: 1912 Cemetery: Riverside Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Superior, Douglas County, Wisconsin, USA Has Bio?: N |
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/04/2017 : 23:40:38
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Maybe his arrivall in 1905
Adolf Lerstad in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Adolf Lerstad Arrival Date: 18 Sep 1905 Birth Date: abt 1873 Age: 32 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian Port of Departure: Christiania Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: United States
Going to his brother Ludvig Lerstad, Willow River, Minnesota
Maybe this one from a Ancestry.com tree
Nils Ludvik Lorentsen (Lerstad) BIRTH 4 JUL 1868 DEATH 12 JUL 1966
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/04/2017 : 00:30:39
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This record differs in the year of death
John Lerstad in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: John Lerstad Event Type: Burial Death Date: 23 Jan Burial Date: 25 Jan 1913 Church Name: Concordia Lutheran Church Location: Superior, Wisconsin |
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 19/04/2017 : 10:24:30
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Thank you very much! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/04/2017 : 23:26:28
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His sister Julie Lerstad travelled to America in 1906 to her friend Lena Olsen in Crystal Falls Michigan. Located in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, borders Wisconsin.
Julie Lerstad in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Julie Lerstad Arrival Date: 18 Sep 1906 Birth Date: abt 1876 Age: 30 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian Port of Departure: Kristiania, Norway Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Hellig Olav
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/04/2017 : 00:54:32
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This might be a clue. She is married Dec 25, 1909 in the original record, not the 1907 that the transcription says. Also one of the Witnesses is Adolf Lerstad, could be your John Adolf Lerstad?
Married in 1909, husband's first name is likely Sven.
Julia Lerstad in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: Julia Lerstad Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1907 Marriage Place: Virginia, Minnesota Spouse: Swan Andersen Church Name: Our Savior Church Location: Virginia, Minnesota |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/04/2017 : 02:27:41
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A girl Gurine Lerstad is married in 1909 in Superior Wisconsin in the same church as recorded the burial of John Lerstad shown above. One of the witnesses for this wedding is a Julia Lerstad.
Gurine Lerstad in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940 Name: Gurine Lerstad Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 23 Jan 1909 Marriage Place: Superior, Wisconsin Spouse: Gust Fleming Church Name: Concordia Lutheran Church Location: Superior, Wisconsin
She arrived in America on the same ship as Julia Lerstad and lists her destination as sister Lina Olson Crystal Falls Wisconsin. However there are some records that indicate that she was in America previous to this trip.
Gurine Lerstad in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Gurine Lerstad Arrival Date: 18 Sep 1906 Birth Date: abt 1860 Age: 46 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian Port of Departure: Kristiania, Norway Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Hellig Olav
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Earlier trip in 1902
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/04/2017 : 03:18:25
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So some work to determine the relationship between all of the Lerstad men and women who settled abound 1900 to 1910 in the region of Minnesota and Wisconsin near Duluth/ Superior. This is likely the baptism of Gurine Lerstad born Dec 20, 1880. Father is Ole Nilsen Lerstad and mother is Johanna Kristensdatter.
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And this is that family in the 1900 Norwegian Census.
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Edited by - AntonH on 21/04/2017 03:22:57 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/04/2017 : 09:03:04
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Of the 25 people leaving Norway carrying *Lerstad in their name a few found in the Emigrants database only one resides at Verdalen at time of departure. The majority are leaving from Leksvik / Lexvigen. Some of the Leksvik people have patronymics associated also: Nicolaisen, and Olsen. What patronymic does Johan Adolf have?
Here J.A.Lerstad b 1873 Verdal is listed as married in 1900 census: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037479003936
One of his children in 1900 is named Nikoline b 1897. Here is a Nicholine Lerstad b abt 1897 in 1910 US: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2PL-9V7
#7 girls half page: SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 724/L0263: Ministerialbok nr. 724A01, 1891-1907, s. 17 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050330040765
At the old fulton history newspaper site, there is a picture of Nikoline Lerstad as a member of a performance group in a Duluth newspaper.
#6 1896 marriage, Johan Adolf was born Lorentzen in Lexvigen and Oline's farm was Hage :
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 724/L0263: Ministerialbok nr. 724A01, 1891-1907, s. 86 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050330040833
So the blood relative must have been Bereth Hage, a sister to Oline, Nikoline's mother?
Also in 1920 census living with same aunt and uncle: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MW18-KJP
Apparently never married and died in 1929: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V4W7-M12
Probably death of the aunt: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V47H-VX7
Probably death of the uncle: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDQ6-8DN
#18 confirmation of Bereth birthdate matches US record: SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 724/L0267: Parish register (copy) no. 724C03, 1879-1898, p. 181 Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070424610182
Possible marriage of the aunt and uncle: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ZJ-GH3
From the Duluth Evening Herald, Saturday 7 Oct 1899 pg 5 col 1: "Odin Halden, county auditor, left yesterday for New York, where he will be married to Miss Bereth Hage of Minneapolis. Miss Hage has been visiting for four months at Trondhjen, Norway, which is the birthplace of both herself and Mr. Halden. They will be married immediately upon her arrival from the old country and will come to Duluth at once and will make their home at the St. Louis for the present."
The aunt arriving 1st time in US: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000118627
The aunt arriving 2nd time in US: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000132688
The uncle Odin in 1865 Norwegian census: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038328008081
The mother of Nikoline probably in 1875 census: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01052389006876
Parents of Oline and Bereth in 1900: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037479003816 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 21/04/2017 15:09:48 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/04/2017 : 15:44:08
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Regards other Lerstad relationships: Gurina's marriage to Gust Fleming was witnessed by an Adolf Lerstad. In a newspaper account of their marriage license Gust is listed as resident of St. Louis county and Gurina as a resident of Douglas county.
Here in WWII draft registration cards John Olsen Lerstad's person who will always know where John is is August Fleming: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKCC-4NZ5
And Martin Olsen Lerstad's person who will always know where Martin is John Lerstad: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKCC-4NZT
Nels Lerstad bought from the US Federal gov't 80 acres 2 miles south of Brookstown, Minnesota in St. Louis county in 1909. This is along the far southern edge of St. Louis county on the border with Carlton county.
Not much meat on this bone but Adolph Lerstad declared his intention to become a citizen while in Minnesota: Naturalization Record First Name:ADOLPH Last Name:LERSTAD Location:DULUTH County:St. Louis State:MINNESOTA Code:34 Reel:13 Volume:2 Page:123
Nils Ludwig Lorentson #17 boys confirmation Lexvik: SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 701/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 701A10, 1883-1899, s. 110 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050511010558
A brother Karl Lorentson # 4 SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 701/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 701A10, 1883-1899, s. 112 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050511010561
John Adolf Lorentson #2 SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 701/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 701A10, 1883-1899, s. 121 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050511010570
Sister Julie Lorentsdatter #16 SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 701/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 701A10, 1883-1899, s. 130 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050511010580
Maybe not closely related Gurine Olsdatter Lerstad #6 SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 701/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 701A10, 1883-1899, s. 140 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050511010590
Here they are in 1900 Norway: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/bosted_land/bf01037476000216
And in 1865 Norway: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038336002788
Nils Ludvig Lorntsen returned to Norway here he is in 1910: https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036862001248
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/04/2017 : 23:05:17
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In 1902 Adolph Lerstad, Julia Lerstad and Gurine Lerstad all lived at 429 John av, Superior, Wisconsin, USA. The original post for this topic states that John Adolf Lerstad emigrated in 1905. so either there is another Adolph in the family other than the John Adolf first posted or John Adolf travelled to America earlier than 1905. Or the date is wrong on the transcriton. Also he is listed as Student and I would not think that John Adolf Lerstad would be a student at his age.
Adolph Lerstad in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 Name: Adolph Lerstad Residence Year: 1902 Residence Place: Superior, Wisconsin, USA Occupation: Student Publication Title: Superior, Wisconsin, City Directory, 1902
Julia Larstad in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 Name: Julia Larstad Residence Year: 1902 Street address: 429 John av Residence Place: Superior, Wisconsin, USA Occupation: Domestic Publication Title: Superior, Wisconsin, City Directory, 1902
The spelling of Gurine's last name was also Larstad
Also I have learned that the date for the Directory is wrong. It is for the year 1907-1908. |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/04/2017 02:12:37 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/04/2017 : 23:18:22
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Gurine did travel to America in 1902. She was going to her brother Halvor Lerstad in Cottowood, Minnesota.
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Gurine Lerstad in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1825-1960 Name: Gurine Lerstad Gender: Female Age: 21 Birth Date: abt 1881 Arrival Date: 28 Jun 1902 Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada Ship Name: Parisian Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Residence Place: Truniams Record Type: Manifests Line Number: 30
In the 1910 US Census Gurine (Gertrude) and husband and child and brother Jakob and friend Julia and her husband Sven are all living in Virginia Minnesota.
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Edited by - AntonH on 21/04/2017 23:52:15 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/04/2017 : 01:08:32
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
In 1902 Adolph Lerstad, Julia Lerstad and Gurine Lerstad all lived at 429 John av, Superior, Wisconsin, USA. The original post for this topic states that John Adolf Lerstad emigrated in 1905. so either there is another Adolph in the family other than the John Adolf first posted or John Adolf travelled to America earlier than 1905. Or the date is wrong on the transcriton. Also he is listed as Student and I would not think that John Adolf Lerstad would be a student at his age.
Adolph Lerstad in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 Name: Adolph Lerstad Residence Year: 1902 Residence Place: Superior, Wisconsin, USA Occupation: Student Publication Title: Superior, Wisconsin, City Directory, 1902
Julia Larstad in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 Name: Julia Larstad Residence Year: 1902 Street address: 429 John av Residence Place: Superior, Wisconsin, USA Occupation: Domestic Publication Title: Superior, Wisconsin, City Directory, 1902
The spelling of Gurine's last name was also Larstad
In spite of the year date I wouldn't eliminate this Adolph just yet. His occupation in Norway was "schoolteacher" so mayhaps he came to US to further his education and actually is a student. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/04/2017 : 01:59:14
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They had quite a collection of Lerstads at 429 John ave in 1902. (Date is wrong should be 1907-1908)) Here is Nels Lerstad there as well.
Nels Lerstad in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 Name: Nels Lerstad Residence Year: 1902 Street address: 429 John av Residence Place: Superior, Wisconsin, USA Occupation: Janitor Publication Title: Superior, Wisconsin, City Directory, 1902
So this Nels Lerstad is not the Nels Ludvig Lerstad born about 1868 but Nels Nicolaisen Lerstad born about 1880.
He left Norway in 1900.
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He spent the next 30 or so years in Superior Wisconsin and can be found in the 1930 Census. I think his age should be 50 not 40.
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Probably him
Nels Lerstad in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 Name: Nels Lerstad SSN: 391100967 Gender: Male Race: White Birth Date: 5 Jun 1879 Birth Place: Trondjam, Norway Father: Nicoly Lerstad Mother: Nicolene Langos Type of Claim: Original SSN. Notes: Nov 1936: Name listed as NELS LERSTAD
From this family
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Parents of the father Nikolai Lerstad are Nils Johnson and Gurine Olsdatter Father of Gurine is Ole Nilsen and father of Nils is Nicolay. Both are here with father Niels Johansen in 1865
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Named Nils Gustav. A cousin of Gurine
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/04/2017 : 02:11:06
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Aha!, The year of 1902 has bothered me from day one. However page one started the names alphabetically from A with no cover page and no date. But after looking at the entry for Nels I started going backwards in the directory until I ran out of names and came to the business section on page 159 There are 182 pages in the book. On page 159 one finds.
R.L. Polk and Co's City of Superior Directory 1907-1908 Classified Business Directory
So the transcribed date is wrong and problem of the date seems cleared up |
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