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Lueke
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Posted - 12/07/2017 :  05:43:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jkmarler

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Originally posted by Lueke

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Originally posted by jkmarler

You could get a copy of his death certificate from the state of North Dakota, cost is about $5 or $8. Here is a copy of the index listing for him.
OLSON, WILLIAM
05/25/1922
Ramsey
MALE
27 Years
06/15/1895
North Dakota
Ramsey

If all goes well, Chronicling America has an obituary for him (not sure links work from the browser address so here goes)
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88076526/1922-05-31/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1907&sort=date&rows=20&words=Olson+OLSON+WILLIAM+William&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=2&state=North+Dakota&date2=1924&proxtext=william+olson&y=12&x=17&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=53



I have asked his granddaughter to order a copy of the death certificate, which I can only get if I'm a direct descendant, which I'm not - his wife was my Mom's aunt, sister of my grandmother. Or if he's been dead for 100 years, then the information becomes 'public', and according to the obit, which I already had, he died in 1922...



You are able to get dc for genealogical purposes. For instance I just got my step mother's d.c. and she is absolutely no relation to me whatsoever. The only thing missing was her cause of death. You can also get a d.c. because you are a cousin.


I have tried this before in North Dakota. Back when I started genealogy, I could get them, but they changed their state law or practice. So I'll wait for the granddaughter to get the document. :-)
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/07/2017 :  20:53:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well here is a long shot. Mr. & Mrs Willie Olson visited an Ed. Olson in the county. There is an Edmund / Edmond Olson b. about 1860 living in Ramsey county, related?

Possibly your William in 1915 North Dakota Census, living with and probably working for Edmond and Signa Olson although without an age or other biographical detail hard to determine for certain:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9C-T459

This is probably Edmond carried as Edward in 1900 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9VL-PQ2

Edmund's listing in the North Dakota Public Death Index:
OLSON, EDMUND
05/08/1934
Ramsey
MALE
73 Years
07/22/1860
North Dakota
Ramsey

Edited by - jkmarler on 14/07/2017 13:02:32
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Lueke
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Posted - 13/07/2017 :  07:58:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Well here is a long shot. Mr. & Mrs Willie Olson visited an Ed. Olson in the county. There is an Edmund / Edmond Olson b. about 1860 living in Ramsey county, related?


Perhaps an uncle? I'm not sure, but he came in 1882, while Willie was born in Skien in 1894, and emigrated in 1907.
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Lueke
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Posted - 13/07/2017 :  08:05:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Lueke

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Originally posted by jkmarler

Well here is a long shot. Mr. & Mrs Willie Olson visited an Ed. Olson in the county. There is an Edmund / Edmond Olson b. about 1860 living in Ramsey county, related?


Perhaps an uncle? I'm not sure, but he came in 1882, while Willie was born in Skien in 1894, and emigrated in 1907. That said, John Zettler, his father-in-law, owned land in the area, he had been farming the Fogner farm, and on his obit, the pallbearer names are from that same area: Pall bearers were Henry Keogh, Arthur Snider, Edwin Mandt, Geo. Dahlen, Alvin Kleven, and H. F. Schneiderjohn.


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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/07/2017 :  17:21:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, here is a total long shot and he contradicts both the birthdate and place and migration date in US records thus far, #21 William b 1 June 1895 and was still in Norway in 1910:
SAKO, Solum kirkebøker, G/Gb/L0003: Klokkerbok nr. II 3, 1880-1898, s. 55
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061130060172

And another in vestre Porsgrunn records who was born either Mar or May 17 1894 # 21 Ole William Olsen:
SAKO, Porsgrunn kirkebøker , F/Fa/L0008: Ministerialbok nr. 8, 1878-1895, s. 149
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060612030396

And another in Gjerpen Hans Olsen b 17 May 1896 1/2 of a set of twins #65
SAKO, Gjerpen kirkebøker, G/Ga/L0002: Klokkerbok nr. I 2, 1883-1900, s. 164
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061129010177

Also in Gjerpen #39 Vilhelm Johansen b 15 May 1894:
SAKO, Gjerpen kirkebøker, G/Ga/L0002: Klokkerbok nr. I 2, 1883-1900, s. 137
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061129010150






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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/07/2017 :  19:09:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a William Olson b abt 1894 living in Ohio with his father Ole Oleson in 1910:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ML6Y-C6L

In looking at the actual page for these it appears that these two were supposed to be counted in Goldwood Township. There is another Olson born in Norway who came to US in 1907 residing in Goldwood. Her name is Anna and she is a niece to Mary and Andrew Peterson. Mary is born Norway and Andrew is born Sweden:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:ML6Y-CH3

They were still in Cuyahoga county in 1920:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD1V-X28

This William is out of consideration because he is living with his sister Anna in 1920 as a single man:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD1K-7CB

He is also born in Tromso 3 Apr 1894:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G1D7-9553?i=1140&cc=1968530

Edited by - jkmarler on 14/07/2017 11:51:50
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Lueke
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Posted - 18/07/2017 :  08:15:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jkmarler

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Originally posted by Lueke

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Originally posted by jkmarler

You could get a copy of his death certificate from the state of North Dakota, cost is about $5 or $8. Here is a copy of the index listing for him.
OLSON, WILLIAM
05/25/1922
Ramsey
MALE
27 Years
06/15/1895
North Dakota
*******
His granddaughter got the death certificate. It states the father as Ole Vettelson and the mother as Gertie Knudsen.
Ramsey

If all goes well, Chronicling America has an obituary for him (not sure links work from the browser address so here goes)
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88076526/1922-05-31/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1907&sort=date&rows=20&words=Olson+OLSON+WILLIAM+William&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=2&state=North+Dakota&date2=1924&proxtext=william+olson&y=12&x=17&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=53



I have asked his granddaughter to order a copy of the death certificate, which I can only get if I'm a direct descendant, which I'm not - his wife was my Mom's aunt, sister of my grandmother. Or if he's been dead for 100 years, then the information becomes 'public', and according to the obit, which I already had, he died in 1922...



You are able to get dc for genealogical purposes. For instance I just got my step mother's d.c. and she is absolutely no relation to me whatsoever. The only thing missing was her cause of death. You can also get a d.c. because you are a cousin.

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Lueke
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Posted - 22/09/2018 :  08:48:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to William Olson, or Olsen's death certificate, his father's name was Ole Vetlesen and his mother was Gjertrud Knudsdatter. I've looked for them but had no luck. His granddaughter told me that a story exists that he took the name of the place where he was living, but that is not necessarily true, because he was living on the farm of Louis Frogner (also from Skien, Telemark), at the time of his death. Mr. Frogner apparantly never married, but rented his farm in Cleveland township.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 22/09/2018 :  10:58:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay this is an exceedingly long shot, too. Mother's name doesn't match, birth date doesn't and birthplace doesn't match:

1900 Norwegian census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037307002123

This family came to US in 1906
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000714411
Ole Vetlesen Seljestad
(male) 1877 Ullensvang g Sagmøllearb State of Wisconsin 1906-07-27 Emigrants from Bergen 1874-1930
Inga Nilsdtr Seljestad
(female) 1877 Vikør g Forr Hustru Vikør 1906-07-27 Emigrants from Bergen 1874-1930
Anne Olsdtr Seljestad
(female) 1899 Vikør Forr Barn Vikør 1906-07-27 Emigrants from Bergen 1874-1930
Wilhelm Olsen Seljestad
(male) 1902 Vikør Forr Barn Vikør 1906-07-27 Emigrants from Bergen 1874-1930

1910 US Federal:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPVL-M43
Ole Halvorson Head M 32 Norway
Inga Halvorson Wife F 32 Norway
Anna Halvorson Daughter F 10 Norway
Wilhelm Halvorson Son M 9 Norway


Edited by - jkmarler on 22/09/2018 11:07:18
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/09/2018 :  01:06:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another long shot possible perhaps before he was a William he was a Vetle?

Here is a Vetle Ols. b about 1896 in Vinje a parish in Telemark. Of course his mother's name is Torbjor and not Gjertru:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037181000587

Here in 1910 his patronymic is given as Olavsen and birthdate as 13 August 1896 :
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036537000138

Mother's birth & baptism:
Thorbjor #37
SAKO, Vinje kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0005: Parish register (official) no. I 5, 1870-1886, p. 5
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060629070170

Living with her mother and stepfather in 1891:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052854001364

____________________________________________________


Edited by - jkmarler on 23/09/2018 05:50:23
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/09/2018 :  06:02:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am beginning to think this is the right fellow. Vetli Olsen. Here are the links:
Year of migration is 1910 and he is leaving from Mo,
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000001117087

Here is his arrival in New York. Father is named in transcription as Ole Belleson but I think it looks like Velleson or maybe Vetleson and he's going to his cousin Johannes Solberg near Devils Lake, North Dakota:

image: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T3-5KJS?i=108&cc=1368704

transcription: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJNB-2Z7

On the back side of the passenger list page it mentions that he has an uncle who paid his passage and one named Edward Olsen at Devils Lake #15.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T3-5KZ3?i=109&cc=1368704

There are other Vetli Olsens in Mo in 1900, in fact 2 live together in 1900 one born 1894 and the other born 1845:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037181001141

The Vetli Olsen b 1845 is still in 1910 census but the fosterson is not there in 1910:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036537001222

So this Vetli Olsen's birth date matches 15 June the year 1894, his father is named Ole Velleson (someone else please look at this and interpret) and he has an uncle named Edward Olsen at Devils Lake. An Edward Olson was discussed earlier in the topic in connection to William.

LDS Community Tree has this Vetli Olsen in extracted data from the Mo bygdebok:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3C1S-PYX

Family identified in the Community Tree:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036537001456

Probably the family in 1891 Olav Vetlisen b 1875 not yet married:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052852001254

Vetli not with birth family in1900 but he is listed as fosterson to his paternal grandfather and step paternal grandmother in 1900:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037181001036

Olaf Vetlisen #25:
SAKO, Mo kirkebøker, G/Gb/L0002: Parish register (copy) no. II 2, 1851-1890, p. 24
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060720060086

Vetli Olavson single in the 1865 census but living with his brother Bjørn and family:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038148001694



Edited by - jkmarler on 23/09/2018 18:04:26
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/09/2018 :  22:16:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Well here is a long shot. Mr. & Mrs Willie Olson visited an Ed. Olson in the county. There is an Edmund / Edmond Olson b. about 1860 living in Ramsey county, related?

Possibly your William in 1915 North Dakota Census, living with and probably working for Edmond and Signa Olson although without an age or other biographical detail hard to determine for certain:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK9C-T459

This is probably Edmond carried as Edward in 1900 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9VL-PQ2

Edmund's listing in the North Dakota Public Death Index:
OLSON, EDMUND
05/08/1934
Ramsey
MALE
73 Years
07/22/1860
North Dakota
Ramsey



According to the Community Tree for Mo bygdebok at familysearch.org there is a relative named Anund Olavson who was born in 1860. Here is his baptism # 34
SAKO, Mo kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0005: Parish register (official) no. I 5, 1844-1864, p. 131
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051007010641

Interestingly his birthdate is 22 July 1860 and makes him a likely candidate for Edmund above. He is not an uncle but a first cousin to Vetli Olsen's dad Olav.

Edited by - jkmarler on 23/09/2018 22:18:18
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