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kristinemathiason
Junior member
USA
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 Posted - 28/11/2017 : 19:02:14
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| My Great-Great Grandfather is Nels Thompson. He was born in Norway in 1815. One source says Hjelmeland, Hordaland and another says Rogaland. My Great-Great Grandmother is Martha Rasmouson, born in 1816 in either above place in Norway. They had 3-4 children in Norway: Daniel 1850, Thomas 1854, Peter Dec 1855, and possibly Nels in 1857. The family arrived in the US in 1858. US Census info indicates they may have been in IL before settling in Ft Dodge, Webster Co, Iowa. I would like to find their place of origin in Norway, so I can visit. I have searched the manifest lists of many ships. but I cannot find them. Any information would be appreciated. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 28/11/2017 : 20:44:37
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| Hjelmeland is in Rogaland. What source said otherwise? That may be a clue in itself. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/11/2017 : 21:43:28
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Bad news and GOOD news.
1. Thompson is NOT a Norwegian name. Nels/Nils last name will have started with a T though.
2. I searched the Hjelmeland, Rogaland parish "outgoing" records for 1858 and found the family. I cannot read every word - but I'm sure others will step into help.
Nels Thoresen Fl...... (probably name of farm residence) 39 yrs old
his wife Martha Rasmusdatter 41 yrs old
and then the list of children also leaving and their ages
see the left hand page beginning with record #16 - click the below to see the original page as digitized at the Digitalarkivet website.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051209010748
This information comes from the Ministerial book for Årdal parish of Hjelmeland clerical district in Rogaland, Norway. This book is number A8 and covers the time period 1842 - 1861. The specific page consulted is 234.
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 28/11/2017 : 22:07:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins
Hjelmeland is in Rogaland. What source said otherwise? That may be a clue in itself.
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
USA
54 Posts |
Posted - 28/11/2017 : 22:10:25
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| The conflicting info came through 2 different distant cousins who did not or could not cite their sources. Based on another reply I believe the Hjelmeland, Rogaland to be correct |
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 28/11/2017 : 22:15:16
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[quote]Originally posted by Hopkins
Bad news and GOOD news.
1. Thompson is NOT a Norwegian name. Nels/Nils last name will have started with a T though.
2. I searched the Hjelmeland, Rogaland parish "outgoing" records for 1858 and found the family. I cannot read every word - but I'm sure others will step into help.
Nels Thoresen Fl...... (probably name of farm residence) 39 yrs old
his wife Martha Rasmusdatter 41 yrs old
and then the list of children also leaving and their ages
see the left hand page beginning with record #16 - click the below to see the original page as digitized at the Digitalarkivet website.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051209010748
This information comes from the Ministerial book for Årdal parish of Hjelmeland clerical district in Rogaland, Norway. This book is number A8 and covers the time period 1842 - 1861. The specific page consulted is 234.
Thanks so much!!! This looks good and the most promising I've ever seen : ) I had no idea Thompson wasn't Norwegian since I grew up with so many Norwegians who went by that name. |
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
USA
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3351 Posts |
Posted - 28/11/2017 : 22:47:44
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Yes, I know some Thompsons from Iowa who were also originally from Norway. A few counties north of Webster almost on the MN border.
There were several Norwegian names that started with T that Americanized themselves to Thompsons... would have been interesting to ask one of them "why?"
I tried some other birth/baptism searches in Hjelmeland parishes -- my eyes are weak today but I get the feeling that the family was "date challenged". (Yes, I have one of those too... they still make me laugh at the new US family bible entries...) |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/11/2017 : 22:55:08
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You have a choice, this could also be the family, names and birth year fits your data. See 1870 census.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/11/2017 13:37:57 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/11/2017 : 23:32:29
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The farm name they were using when they left is likely Flaadene.
Rygh Farm Names
First child Anna was born in 1842
#34
Although that is not the farm name that is found when Rasmus was baptized. Which looks like Østigaard to me.
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Or Thore
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So probably had two sons named Daniel, here is one born in 1849 and is listed as having died in 1852.
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Now for Britha born in 1852 the farm name that I have difficulty reading is followed by the farm name Flaadene in parens.
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The second Daniel was born in 1854.
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And finally Peder in 1857
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Edited by - AntonH on 29/11/2017 03:58:04 |
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 28/11/2017 : 23:39:12
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Wow! This is simply amazing to me! I am so grateful to you.
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Originally posted by lyndal40
The farm name they were using when they left is likely Flaadene.
Rygh Farm Names
Although that is not the farm name that is found when Rasmus was baptized.
#44
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 28/11/2017 : 23:42:06
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Thanks so much for looking at this! Other info shows my family likely in US in 1870, but I'll take a look.
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Originally posted by eibache
You have a choice, this could also be the family, names and birth year fits your data. See 1870 census.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/11/2017 : 03:58:21
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That 1870 census appears to show the family in Livingston? County, Illinois, USA.
Norway did censuses in 1865 and 1875 -- none in 1870. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/11/2017 : 10:16:03
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Niels Thorsen, Østigaard and Martha Rasmusdatter, Kaltwedt were married June 20 1842, see #5.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/11/2017 : 10:20:24
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Martha Rasmusdatter was bapticed November 30 1817, see confirmation record #10.
Her parents were Rasmus Evensen and Britha Eriksdatter, Kaltveidt.
See also #13.
Rasmus was a widower when he married Britha, see #5.
His first wife was Mari Iversdatter.
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Edited by - eibache on 29/11/2017 14:25:09 |
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Tracking Norwegian ancestors
