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lynnmortensen
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France
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Posted - 16/02/2018 :  13:22:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Today after exhasuting my leads I opened a 'The Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints' Free Account only to find that information I already have received in the past from Duluth, a 1900 Census, marriage certificate for my paternal grandparents, birth certificates for my father, uncle and two aunts, this Free Acct site says these people cannot be found-I find this strange.
The Norwegian Emigration Center paying service at www.emigrationcenter.com is not up and running due to a shortage of staff. I cannot access Duluth Library info unless I live there (I am in France) I am looking for any American side information for a great Aunt Antonette Katinka Maria Mortensen, landed in Duluth on the Thingvalla (pass lists not helping) she landed in September, 1892...from a 'newsarch.rootsweb' partial message on line I know this woman married and had a family but I know no more...any ideas would be appreciated?

lynn

jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 16/02/2018 :  14:44:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your problem with a familysearch.org family tree is that they won't identify the owner of a family tree?

Here from the Norwegian digitalarkivet in the 1885 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053295013129

Here leaving age 15 watchmakers daughter:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000687735

Probably the family in 1875 in Bergen before A.K. is born:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052295006594

Antonette Katinka's baptism:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000007596822

If you want us to help it would be better with more information to start.
The documents you already have
1900 census: US or Norway?, who is the person, what is the location?
death certificate: whose, where, when?

Duluth, Minnesota is a port on the Great Lakes. I don't know for sure but it's unlikely that the same ship took her all the way from Bergen to Duluth. Thingvalla is a line mentioned in her departure.

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/02/2018 15:30:51
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 16/02/2018 :  15:35:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a possible from 1900 census Katy Mortenson b May 1876 Norway:
Name Katy Mortensen
Event Type Census
Event Year 1900
Event Place Stamford city Ward 1 (north side), Fairfield, Connecticut, United States
Gender Female
Age24
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) W
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)Servant
Birth Date May 1876
Birthplace Norway
Immigration Year 1894
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Oliver Fessenden HeadM45Maine
Virginia W Fessenden WifeF45Virginia
Charles M Fessenden SonM17Illinois
Marcia Fessenden DaughterF9Connecticut
Katy Mortensen Servant F 24 Norway
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9QJ-F14 : accessed 16 February 2018), Katy Mortensen in household of Oliver Fessenden, Stamford city Ward 1 (north side), Fairfield, Connecticut, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 98, sheet 3A, family 49, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,240,134.

Possible match to Katy Mortenson:
Name
Catherinne Courtney
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1930
Event Place
Stamford, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States
Gender
Female
Age
53
Marital Status
Married
Race
White
Race (Original)
White
Relationship to Head of Household
Wife
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)
Wife
Birth Year (Estimated)
1877
Birthplace
Norway
Immigration Year
1894
Father's Birthplace
Norway
Mother's Birthplace
Norway
Sheet Letter
A
Sheet Number
8
Metthew Courtney HeadM52 New York
Catherinne Courtney WifeF53Norway
Elise M Courtney DaughterF18Connecticut
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XMPH-C9R : accessed 16 February 2018), Catherinne Courtney in household of Metthew Courtney, Stamford, Fairfield, Connecticut, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 202, sheet 8A, line 2, family 152, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 259; FHL microfilm 2,339,994.

A better match to this possible is this Kathinka Mortensen 1900 regards the date of migration which seems to be consistent throughout many census dates of 1894. However birthyear is off:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000282851

Edited by - jkmarler on 18/02/2018 15:43:38
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 16/02/2018 :  16:01:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Apparently Kathinka's brother came to US also about 6 months prior to her:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000687272

What do you know about Matthias Christopher her brother?
Probably Matthias Christopher the son as Markus Kristoffer{
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/44/pp00000000094890

Is this your grandfather Christopher Maurice Mortenson?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLPG-M82

Possibly him in 1900 census US:
Christ Mortenton
United States Census, 1900
Name
Christ Mortenton
Event Type
Census
Event Year
1900
Event Place
Districts 2 & 5 Duluth city Ward 1, St. Louis, Minnesota, United States
Gender
Male
Age
27
Marital Status
Married
Race
White
Race (Original)
W
Relationship to Head of Household
Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)
Head
Years Married
1
Birth Date
Jun 1873
Birthplace
Norway
Marriage Year (Estimated)
1899
Immigration Year
1886
Father's Birthplace
Norway
Mother's Birthplace
Norway
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Christ Mortenton Head M 27Norway
Randina Mortenton Wife F 37 Norway
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M935-FQJ : accessed 16 February 2018), Christ Mortenton, Districts 2 & 5 Duluth city Ward 1, St. Louis, Minnesota, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 257, sheet 11A, family 196, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,240,789.

Probably him in FAG:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/98983006

Edited by - jkmarler on 17/02/2018 10:24:55
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 16/02/2018 :  17:49:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The emigration records from Bergen in 1892 show both Mathias and Antonette departing from that port BUT where is a record of them landing in Duluth, Minnesota? The emigration register for Bergen does NOT list destination. Such information came from where?

The US National Archives are the official location for the passenger manifests of persons arriving at US ports of entry. They have no records existing for Duluth prior to 1907 so what was the actual source of the information of such an arrival or arrivals?

Also the fleet of ships of the Thingvalla line are not shown as sailing from Bergen but rather from Christiania/Oslo, Christiansand to New York.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 16/02/2018 :  19:23:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of the lucky few sites not hosted by Rootsweb is St. Louis county, Minnesota. It's a free look there:
http://www.theusgenweb.org/mn/stlouis/vitals.htm
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lynnmortensen
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France
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Posted - 17/02/2018 :  12:33:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why did I believe they'd landed in Duluth? I have nothing written saying they did, so this was an assumption on my part. The info from The Norwegian Emigration Center in Stavanger has written <emigration-records from the port of Bergen 1874-1930, list Mathias Kristofer Mortensen, male unwed, born 1872, residence: Bergen, birthplace Bergen, embarked in June 6,1892, his sister Antonette Katinka Mortensen, female, unwed, born 1877, 15 years old, left on SS Thingvalla from the port of Bergen in September 8, 1892>
My cousins say they'd heard our grandfather was a Merchant Marine which he would leave when landing in New York??? would then settle in Duluth no date, married October 1899 in Duluth to my Norwegian grandmother. Mathias Kristofer Mortensen born Bergen June 15, 1872, father Mathias Christophersen Mortensen, clock smith, born October 10 1838, Bergen. Mathia Kristofer's Sisters: Karen Marie, Ragna Louise, and Antonette Katinka Mortensen. Yes my grandfather changed his names to Christopher Maurice Mortensen...this is how he is registered in Duluth on the 1900 census, and on all his official papers on arriving in Canada. with Mathias Kristofer Mortensen in brackets). I shall get to work looking at the links you've both provided...thank you thank you...

lynn
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lynnmortensen
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France
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Posted - 17/02/2018 :  12:49:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Norwegian Emigration Center provided names- greatgrandparents, with their children, one being Mathias Kristofer Mortensen and his sisters...I have no 'certificates' on anyone in Norway. So when all is said and done this Mathias Kristofer Mortensen may not be family AT ALL :-(.
1900 Census of Christopher Marius Mortensen from Duluth, MN. married.
My father and his siblings birth certificates come from Duluth MN.
My father wrote to cousins in Duluth up until his death 1981, my uncle speaks of cousins in Duluth on tapes I have of interviews with him, however he never says their family names..my auntie Ragna Mortensen wrote to her Norwegian auntie Ragna, her namesake and their aunt Karen until she died in 1951, none of her correspondance was saved...

lynn
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 18/02/2018 :  17:45:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Yes my grandfather changed his names to Christopher Maurice Mortensen...this is how he is registered in Duluth on the 1900 census


No, the 1900 US census shows him as Christ Mortenton.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M935-FQ


Edited by - Hopkins on 18/02/2018 19:12:04
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