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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 19/02/2018 : 23:11:43
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These children have been associated in one form or another with the family of John A Boyd and Sarah Boyd.
Mikel Elias Nelson b 1868 Fjelberg, Hordaland and twin
Abel Mike Nelson b 1868 Fjelbeg, Hordaland, found in Illinois and found in Minnesota. Parents for both are Niels Mikklesen Fjelberg and Agathe Abelsdatter
Dina or Trina Nelson b 1870 in Norway (also listed Illinois) married
Haskey (Hocke) Nelson b 1871 in Illinois married Nettie Fritz probably sister of Thor Fritz both children of Lars J Fritz (Lars called Lars J Boyd in 1880 Census and Thor Fritz found in 1900 Census)
Ida Nelson b 1874 in Illinois found with the Boyds in 1900 Census.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 01:41:17
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Most of the connections are probably through the wife Sarah Boyd. the 1920 Census shows tow of her nephews Henry and Allie? Thorsen living with her. Could be sons of Thor Olsen her brother who was part of the group to come from Norway in 1848 or based on the 1910 Census the sons of a brother born in America a Albert Thorsen.
Sarah Boyd
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Sarah Boyd
Age: 77
Birth Year: abt 1843
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Pilot, Kankakee, Illinois
Street: Main Street
House Number: X
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1848
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Free
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Boyd 77
Henry Thorsen 45
Allie Thorsen 31
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 02:13:50
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The 1910 Census shows Sarah Boyd living with a large Thorson family including her brother Albert born in 1852 in Illinois.
Sarah Boyd
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Sarah Boyd
Age in 1910: 68
Birth Year: abt 1842
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Pilot, Kankakee, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1897
[1847]
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Free
Farm or House: House
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Boyd 68
Albert Thorson 58
Henry O Thorson 37
Cora Thorson 23
Lula Thorson 18
Myrtle Thorson 16
Hazel Thorson 11
Mikel Nelson 42
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 03:29:58
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The find of a brother to John Boyd by Jan Peter opens up another search line. Here is likely brother Abraham Bauge.
Abraham Baùge
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1945
Name: Abraham Baùge
Gender: Male
Spouse: Lottie Baùge
Child: Ana Gertrùd Baùge
Church Name: Lisbon Lutheran Parish
Church Location: Lisbon, Illinois
And he ended up using the Boyd name as well.
Abraham A. Boyd
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Abraham A. Boyd
Age: 38
Birth Date: Abt 1842
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Big Grove, Kendall, Illinois, USA
Street: Part of the village of Lisbon
Dwelling Number: 162
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lettie Boyd
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Nor
Occupation: Farmer
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham A. Boyd 38
Lettie Boyd 33
Olaf O. Boyd 7
Anna G. Boyd 5
Thor Adn Boyd 4
Ella Katie Boyd 1
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rkolson
Junior member
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 20:07:58
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| so the great Joe A Boyd mystery is solved! Still seems to be some confusion regarding their daughter Tena (Thine?) Boyd. Her death notice in the Herscher paper said she was born in Etna, Norway on Oct 10, 1868 and came to Illinois at age 1yr with her parents Joe and Sarah(Thorson) Boyd. She had 7 children: Louise, Mabel, Iborra, Myrtle, Thorval, Joe, and my grandmother Anna. Could the Etna reference actually be referring to Etne which would fit with the Baúge Skånevik? Does Yttre translate to "outer"? Are Sarah and Siri interchangeable names? Why did Ole Thorsen Flatland have "vagrant" after his name? Thanks again for all your wonderful help. Robert |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 20:45:42
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The search for Tena (Thine?) Boyd is still ongoing. Etna could very well be Etne, next to Skånevik, but no good candidate have been found yet.
Yttre translate to "outer". It is used to separate the two Bauge farms. The other is named Indre Bauge, "inner". Outer, as in nearest to the sea.
Sarah would be the americanized/anglified version of Siri.
The priest added the word "løsgjenger" (vagrant in english)to Ole Thorsen Flatland's name in the marriage record.
It probably means he was a vagabond without a permanent residence, travelling around in the districts, looking for work. Often to the hassle of the locals.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 22:04:37
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
These children have been associated in one form or another with the family of John A Boyd and Sarah Boyd.
Mikel Elias Nelson b 1868 Fjelberg, Hordaland and twin
Abel Mike Nelson b 1868 Fjelbeg, Hordaland, found in Illinois and found in Minnesota. Parents for both are Niels Mikklesen Fjelberg and Agathe Abelsdatter
Dina or Trina Nelson b 1870 in Norway (also listed Illinois) married
Haskey (Hocke) Nelson b 1871 in Illinois married Nettie Fritz probably sister of Thor Fritz both children of Lars J Fritz (Lars called Lars J Boyd in 1880 Census and Thor Fritz found in 1900 Census)
Ida Nelson b 1874 in Illinois found with the Boyds in 1900 Census.
Anton, I'm struggeling to see the connection you've found between these people and the Boyd's. Could you elaborate?
Niels Mikkelsen Fjelberg and Agathe Abelsdatter is interesting. They have a daughter Guro Nilsdatter, born 09 Oct 1870, christened at home 10 Oct 1870.
Could she be Thine (Tena) Boyd, born 10 Oct 10 1868, and the same as Dina or Trina Nelson b 1870?
I'm starting to believe Thine Boyd could be adopted. She seems to be born in Norway, with a father named Nils (Ref "Dina Nilson"). Both John A Boyd and Sarah Boyd were in America in the 1860''s, and it's unlikely the travelled to Norway in that period. |
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rkolson
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 22:18:46
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| Just a bit more info: Joe was in the army from Sept 1862 till July, 1865. Joe owned 157 acres of prime land. Abutting his land were 4 Thorson plots totaling 315 acres and also a NELSON property. A J. Clinton tree(don't know where i got it) shows a Dina Nelson as a daughter of Joe A Boyd and Sarah Thorson. Hope this doesn't clutter your efforts. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 22:37:55
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A summary of the various US Census records might help at this time.
In 1870 Joseph Boyd was living with or next to Thor Thorson and his wife Caroline Thorson. Sarah (Siri) age 4 and her parents and siblings left Norway in 1848 so it is difficult to believe that Trine? is their child if she was born in Norway.
1870
In the 1880 census Joseph Boyd and Sarah are married. Living with them are a whole host of characters.
Sivert O Boyd
Lars J Boyd
Hocke Nelson
Dina Nelson
1880
In the 1900 Census Joseph A Boyd and Sarah have living with them
Ole Thorsen, probably the father of Sarah
Haskey Boyd probably Hoske Nelson fro 1880
Ida Nelson maybe the sister of Dina and Hoske
Thor Fritz probably the son of Lars J Fritz (Boyd) in 1880
1900
By the 1910 Census Joseph A Boyd is deceased and Sarah is living with her American born brother Albert and his large family. At the bottom of the list is Mikel Nelson
Miklel Nelson is one of the twins. Mikael and Elias Nielsen born in 1868 to Niels Mikkelsen and Agathe Abelsdatter
1910
In 1920 Sarah has her two nephews (one the son of brother Albert) named Henry and the other Allie unknown living with her
1920
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jwiborg
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 22:52:03
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Interesting observation:
Sarah (Siri) Thorson and her future brother-in-law Abraham Askautson Boyd was christened in the same church, only two weeks between:
(Also shown on first page:) Ola Torsson Fatland Hillesdal (1812-) and Kari Johannesdatter Djuvik (1815-) emigrated to America in april 1847 with their 4 children:
Brita 1836
Johannes 1839
Siri 1842 Sarah Boyd
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 23:15:08
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Now not everyone on the list of characters needs to be related to either Joseph or Sarah, they could be children of friends. I can se no easy connection to Syvert O Boyd from 1880. He is likely
Syvert Johan Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Syvert Johan Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 19 feb 1859
Baptism Date: 27 feb 1859
Baptism Place: Skaanevik, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Ole Larssen
Mother: Gunnele Abrahamsdr
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The same holds for the twins. Mikael Elias Nelson b 1868 Fjelberg, Hordaland and twin
Abel Mikael Nelson b 1868 Fjelbeg, Hordaland, found in Illinois and found in Minnesota. Parents for both are Niels Mikklesen Fjelberg and Agathe Abelsdatter
Numbers 77 and 78 are the twins. Abel Mikael and Mikael Elias Nielsen.
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 23:28:37
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However I think that there is a stronger connection for Hokse Nelson, Dina Nelson and Ida Nelson.
Dina Nelson could very well be the same as the daughter Tena (Thine?) Boyd.
In the 1880 Census both Hokse Nelson and Dina Nelson are listed as boarders. Dina as born in Norway and Hokse born in Illinois.
In the 1900 Census Dina is gone and Hokse is listed as adopted and Ida is listed as Servant. Both are born in Illinois
Thine (Tina or Dina or whatever} was married in 1887.
Thine Boyd
in the Illinois, County Marriage Records, 1800-1940
Name: Thine Boyd
Gender: Female
Age: 17
Birth Date: abt 1870
Marriage Date: 1887
Marriage Place: Kankakee, Illinois, USA
Father: Joseph Boyd
Mother: Siri Thorsen
Spouse: Heldor Thorbjomsen Tofte
Film Number: 001839993
Heldor's parents are listed as from Tøfte Ovre, Fjelberg, Hordaland
This family in 1865
1865
Name: Heldor Thorbjomsen Tofte
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1864
Marriage Date: 1887
Marriage Place: Kankakee, Illinois, USA
Father: Thorbjorn T Tofte
Mother: Anna T Vik
Spouse: Thine Boyd
Film Number: 001839993
All three children are referred to as Nelson Boyd in various trees and are all listed as children of Joseph and Sarah Boyd.
Dina or Trina is listed as being born in Norway in 1880 and 1900 Census (Oct 1869 in 1900 Census). In the 1910 birth place is listed as Illinois, 1920 back to Norway, and back to Illinois in 1930.
Hocke Nelson Boyd is listed in a tree as born July 15, 1871 Newark, Kendall, Illinois.
Ida Nelson Boyd is listed in a tree as born March 15, 1874 in Herscher, Illinois. Herscher is a village in Kankakee County. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 23:28:49
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| I have refered to Syvert O. Boyd previously. He is the half-brother of Joseph and Abraham A. Boyd. They share the same mother; Gunli Abrahamsdatter. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 23:33:37
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| Ah yes too much information to keep straight, thanks |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 02:25:10
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Marriages found in Lisbon, Kendall county lutheran church:
Joh A Boyd to Sara Thorson 31 Jan 1871
Abraham A Boyd to Lettie Annison 4 Apr 1871
Axel Boyd to Aagothe Wik 29 Oct 1871
widower Abraham Boyd age 46 born Skanevig, Norway to spinster Carrie Thompson age 36 b Fanas Prestegjeld m 14 Sept 1888
From Illinois State Secretary of State digital archives
Pre 1916 deaths:
BOYD, JOSEPH A 1902-10-09 PILOT TWP 64 YR M 2 170 KANKAKEE
Deaths 1916-1950
BOYD HOCKEY M/W Y-78 0033001 1949-08-28 KANKAKEE 49-08-28 |
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