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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 21/02/2018 : 17:24:04
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If Ole Thorsen and family came to America in 1848, we should be able to find them in the census records for 1850, 1860, and 1870. It has been a struggle to find early records for the famillyl. Here s a likely record for son Thor born in 1844. Record indicate he spent most of his life in Kendall County, Illinois.
Thor O. Thorsen
in the Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths Index, 1916-1947
Name: Thor O. Thorsen
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1844
Birth Place: Skoniria, Norway
Death Date: 12 Nov 1934
Death Place: Elliott, Ford, Illinois
Burial Date: 14 Nov 1934
Burial Place: Elliott, Ford, Illinois
Cemetery Name: Elliott
Death Age: 90
Occupation: Carpenter
Race: White
Marital Status: W
Gender: Male
Residence: Ill
Father Name: Ole Thorsen
Father Birth Place: Norway
Mother Name: Carrie Inger
Mother Birth Place: Skoniria, Norway
Spouse Name: Martha Thorsen
FHL Film Number: 1712220
He married Martha Petersen in 1870 also in Kendall County, Illinois
Thor O Thorson
in the Illinois, Marriage Index, 1860-1920
Name: Thor O Thorson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 10 Feb 1870
Marriage Place: Kendall, Illinois, USA
Spouse Name: Martha S Peterson
Spouse Gender: Female
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Edited by - AntonH on 21/02/2018 17:28:49 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 17:42:50
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Anton, I'm struggeling to see the connection you've found between these people and the Boyd's. Could you elaborate?
Niels Mikkelsen Fjelberg and Agathe Abelsdatter is interesting. They have a daughter Guro Nilsdatter, born 09 Oct 1870, christened at home 10 Oct 1870.
Could she be Thine (Tena) Boyd, born 10 Oct 10 1868, and the same as Dina or Trina Nelson b 1870?
I'm starting to believe Thine Boyd could be adopted. She seems to be born in Norway, with a father named Nils (Ref "Dina Nilson"). Both John A Boyd and Sarah Boyd were in America in the 1860''s, and it's unlikely the travelled to Norway in that period.
Jan Peter I am starting to come around to this conclusion as well. That Guro Nilsdattter is Dina Nelson Boyd. It begins to explain the presence of the Nelson twins Mikael and Elias in the same area.
However the family here in 1875 but no Guro
1875
Mikel Elias confirmed in 1883
Link
Mikel Elias emigration in 1906, brother Abel as well, returning to Illinois
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Edited by - AntonH on 21/02/2018 21:46:01 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 19:10:27
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Census-1850 shows them in Saratoga:
Oli Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1812 Norway Ola Torsson Fatland Hillesdal
Julia Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1814 Norway Kari Johannesdatter Djuvik
John Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1839 Norway Johannes
Sarah Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1841 Norway Siri
John Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1843 Norway Tor
Brita b. 1836 is missing. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 20:25:17
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Some census-info about the mysterious Hockey Boyd
Census-1940 for Herscher, Kankakee, Illinois
Houcheg Boyd, 67 widower
Eliene Ray, 31 daughter
Arnold Ray, 33 son-in-law
Beverly Ray, 5 granddaughter
Census-1930 for Pilot, Kankakee, Illinois
Hockie Boyd, abt 1876. Widower. Parents born in Norway.
Joe Boyd, abt 1904 Son
Eleen Boyd, abt 1909 Daughter
Marcella Boyd, abt 1914 Daughter
Census-1920 for Pilot, Kankakee, Illinois
Hou*y Boyd, abt 1873
Netie Boyd, abt 1883 wife
Sadie Boyd, abt 1903 daughter
Joseph Boyd, abt 1905 son
Bessie Boyd, abt 1906 daughter
Eileen Boyd, abt 1910 daughter
Hattie Boyd, abt 1913 daughter
Census-1910 for Pilot, Kankakee, Illinois
Hochey Boyd, abt 1872
Nettie E Boyd, abt 1882
Sadie M Boyd, abt 1902
Joseph A Boyd, abt 1904
Bessie L Boyd, abt 1905
Nina I Boyd, abt 1909
Nettie Boyd
Birth: 9 November 1882 / 1883 Kendle County, Illinois
Death: 7 February 1928 Pilot, Kankakee, Illinois
Burial: 11 February 1928
Residence: 7 February 1928 Herscher, Ill.
Father: Lars Fritz
Mother: Mary Hill
Spouse: Hockey Boyd |
Edited by - jwiborg on 21/02/2018 21:02:58 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 21:27:18
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Maybe Ole Thorsen and wife in 1880 Census
Olie Torson
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Olie Torson
Age: 68
Birth Date: Abt 1812
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Lisbon, Kendall, Illinois, USA
Dwelling Number: 126
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Julia Torson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: Farmer
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Olie Torson 68
Julia Torson 68
Emma Torson 12
Goodman Peterson 28
Carrie Peterson 26
Sarah Peterson 2
Sever Peterson 10/12
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 21:37:26
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This is weird..
A couple named Niels Mikkelsen & Aagaathe Abelsdatter, Sæbø, christened a son on Oct 30th, 1870, in Fjelberg parish. Fjelberg is in Etne.(!).
Simon Abraham is born 09 Oct 1870, the same day as the Guro Nilsdatter in question above.
Could they be twins? Weird that they would be christened in different churches. But on second look, the mother to Guro is written Margrethe Abelsdatter. Maybe Guro is a wrong lead...
Simon Abraham married in Roland, Story, Iowa in 1898. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 21:49:45
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Perhaps some to look into marriage records from Kendall and other counties Illinois:
BOYD, KNUD P THORSON, BETSEY 1870-04-18 A 134 1732 KENDALL
JOHNSON, PETER THORSON, BETSEY 1854-10-17 00000297
GRUNDY
KNUDSON, RASMUS THORSON, BETSEY 1859-09-29 C802
LA SALLE
TORRISON, NELS THORSON, BETSEY 1861-02-20 A 1 0096
KENDALL
FITCH, OSMEN THORSON, BETSEY O 1871-10-31 A 141 1866
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 22:17:56
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I think you are right to doubt your Guro. In the 1875 Norwegian Census there is
Nils Mikkelsen
Agothe Abelsdatter
Malene Hellene Nilsdatter
Helga Serine Nilsdatter
Abel Mikel Nilsen
Mikael Elias Nilsen
Simon Abraham Nilsen
No Guro
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 22:36:40
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Originally posted by lyndal40
I think you are right to doubt your Guro. In the 1875 Norwegian Census there is
Nils Mikkelsen
Agothe Abelsdatter
Malene Hellene Nilsdatter
Helga Serine Nilsdatter
Abel Mikel Nilsen
Mikael Elias Nilsen
Simon Abraham Nilsen
No Guro
1875
Another weird thing... born 1833? And so many children...
The farmhistory book for Eid and Fjelberg says that Nils Mikkelsen lived on nedre Sæbø in Fjelberg. He was born 1853 by parents Mikkel Gunnarsen (1813-1858) and Grete Nilsdr (1820-).
Only one son Simon Abraham is mentioned, with wife Ågot Abelsdr. It says Nils re-married in 1880 with Johanne Jørgine Nilsdr Sjo.
Maybe the children was given up for adoption when Ågot died? |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 22:58:40
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A possible link:
There is one Abel Pettersen/Pedersen on Yttre Bauge, census-1865/1875.Could he be the father of Ågiot. Maybe the children was adopted by the Yttre Bauge families when Ågot died?
Agathe Abelsdatter
Born 05 Apr 1828
Parents: Abel Pedersen & Helga Nielsdatter |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 23:31:16
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Census-1850 shows them in Saratoga:
Oli Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1812 Norway Ola Torsson Fatland Hillesdal
Julia Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1814 Norway Kari Johannesdatter Djuvik
John Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1839 Norway Johannes
Sarah Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1841 Norway Siri
John Tarson, Saratoga , Grundy, Illinois abt 1843 Norway Tor
Brita b. 1836 is missing.
There is also a son named Nelson Tarson age is listed as 3 and born in Illinois
Name: Nelson Tarson
Age: 3
Birth Year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Illinois
Home in 1850: Saratoga, Grundy, Illinois, USA
Gender: Male
Family Number: 25
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 23:31:53
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A couple named Niels Mikkelsen & Aagaathe Abelsdatter, Sæbø, christened a son on Oct 30th, 1870, in Fjelberg parish. Fjelberg is in Etne.(!).
Jan Peter -- Fjelberg was never part of Etne. It has been sliced and diced many times through the years and finally dissolved into another district - but no, never part of Etne.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fjelberg
The family N. Mikkelsen family discussed does appear in the bygdebok "Kvinnherad b. 5 Fjelberg og Eid”, by Anders Havnelid. No daughter named Guro or similar. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/02/2018 : 23:48:42
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Marriage of Aagot and Nils
Agaat Abelsdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Agaat Abelsdr
[Agaat Pedersen]
Gender: Female
Age: 37
Birth Date: 1828
Marriage Date: 8 jul 1865
Marriage Place: , Fjelberg, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Abel Pedersen
Spouse: Nils Mikkelsen
FHL Film Number: 124511
#6
No children in 1865 Census
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Edited by - AntonH on 21/02/2018 23:49:56 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/02/2018 : 00:05:31
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Likely Siri Thorsen in the 1860 US Census, birth year is a bit off
Sarah Thorson
in the 1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Sarah Thorson
Age: 18
Birth Year: abt 1842
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Norway
Home in 1860: Saratoga, Grundy, Illinois
Post Office: Morris
Dwelling Number: 1721
Family Number: 1675
Occupation: Help
Household Members:
Name Age
George Barstow 37
Genevene Barstow 29
James Barstow 3/12
Heinan Barstow 30
Ola Thompson 24
Sarah Thorson 18
And in 1870 Census
Sarah Torson
in the 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Sarah Torson
Age in 1870: 25
Birth Year: abt 1845
Birthplace: Norway
Dwelling Number: 163
Home in 1870: Saratoga, Grundy, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Female
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Father of Foreign Birth: Y
Mother of Foreign Birth: Y
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Torson 25
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/02/2018 : 00:47:23
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Here is Ole Thorson in 1870 Census
Ole Forson
in the 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Ole Forson
Age in 1870: 56
Birth Year: abt 1814
Birthplace: Norway
Dwelling Number: 195
Home in 1870: Lisbon, Kendall, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Occupation: Farmer
Father of Foreign Birth: Y
Mother of Foreign Birth: Y
Male Citizen Over 21: Y
Real Estate Value: 7200
Inferred Spouse: Julia Forson
Inferred Children: Nelson Forson
Albert Forson
Carrie Forson
Elizabeth Forson
Ellen E Forson
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole Forson 56
Julia Forson 55
Nelson Forson 23
Albert Forson 19
Carrie Forson 17
Elizabeth Forson 16
Ellen E Forson 13
There is a Anniee Johnson in this household age 2, born in Illinois, In the Original record but not included in the transcription .
Family Search does a better job of transcribing, Ole Torson
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/02/2018 01:05:35 |
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Joe A Boyd
