| Author |
 Topic  |
|
jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
 Posted - 24/02/2018 : 17:46:35
|
| As shown above, the 8 month old Dina [Nielsdatter] from Hadeland who left Norway in 1868, is the same as Dina Rossing nee: Hilden. So she is not Dina Boyd. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 24/02/2018 18:00:02 |
 |
|
|
jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 17:59:18
|
I think it's clear that Dina, her brother(?) Hockey, (and possibly also sister(?) Ida) is adobted into the family. Dina is said to be born in Norway (Etne?), and Joe and Sarah were not in Norway in 1868-1870.
Any adult Nelsons (from Etne, Skånevig or Fjelberg) who died in Illinois in the 1870s? It seems something must have happened to their parents?
Family relations in these settings are strong, so maybe Joe or Sarah are uncle/aunt to the Nelsons? (Dina, Hockey, Ida). |
Edited by - jwiborg on 24/02/2018 18:21:34 |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 18:08:27
|
quote:
Is the Nelson/Nilsen lead with the 5 Nelson children living with Joe and Sarah the best explanation of who Tena was? The Nelson farm was across the street from the Boyd farm.
Robert, This thread is getting very long can you explain for me what farm you are talking about and from what record are a family of Nelsons living across the road from the Boyds |
Edited by - AntonH on 24/02/2018 18:13:34 |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 18:29:08
|
Your comment above made me take a look for any other people named Nelson living in Pilot, Kankakee in the 1800 Census. I did find a Gunner Nelson living on the same farm as Thore Thorson and wife Caroline. If memory serves me right that Thore is the brother of Siri (Sarah). Could he be an older sibling of Dina, Hocke and Ida?
Gunner Nelson
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Gunner Nelson
Age: 18
Birth Date: Abt 1862
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Pilot, Kankakee, Illinois, USA
Dwelling Number: 127
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Nor.
Occupation: Farm Hand
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Gunner Nelson 18
|
|
|
|
rkolson
Junior member
USA
65 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 18:38:08
|
| i have a copy of the land map for Pilot township in 1883. Joe A Boyd is in section 31. Immediately south of him is E Nelson and A Nelson property in section 6. There are also 4 Thorson properties very close to Joe. |
|
|
|
rkolson
Junior member
USA
65 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 19:15:26
|
| Thor Thorson is the name on the property near Joe and the Nelsons |
|
|
|
jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 20:10:13
|
The previous mentioned Abel Mikel Nilsen in census-1910 for Pilot, Kankakee, Illinois. Listed above him is hired man Hochey Halverson.
Here is Haakon Halvorsen Brandvik emigrating to Hersches, Ill in 1908.
No reason to believe Haakon Halvorsen Brandvik is any family, but I think we have the origin for the Hockey name... Haakon!
Hockey Boyd, aka Haakon Nilsen. |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 23:33:52
|
quote:
Immediately south of him is E Nelson and A Nelson property in section 6.
Well the first names that come to my mind are Elias and Abel Nilsen (Nelson) who we have discussed many times in this thread. |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 23:48:06
|
The connections between the various people named Boyd and people named Nilsen (Nelson) are numerous. Here is another example. Child named Torger Elias, parents are Knud and Lena Nelson. The witness to the baptism are Syvert and Lina Boyd, G Nilsen, Carrie Nilsen, Abel Torgerson and Stina Larsen.
Torger Elias Nilsen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1945
Name: Torger Elias Nilsen
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 18 Mar 1892
Baptism Date: 12 Jun 1892
Baptism Place: Herscher, Illinois, USA
Father: Kund Nilsen
Mother: Lena Nilsen
Church Name: Grand Prairie
Church Location: Herscher, Illinois |
|
|
|
jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2018 : 00:46:46
|
Census-1910
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Knudt Nelson Head Male 46 Norway
Lena Nelson Wife Female 45 Norway
Thomas Nelson Son Male 18 Illinois
Mattie Nelson Daughter Female 17 Illinois
Nels Nelson Son Male 14 Illinois
Nelia Nelson Daughter Female 13 Illinois
Retha Nelson Daughter Female 10 Illinois
Hazel Nelson Daughter Female 5 Illinois
Senneva Torgerson Mother-in-law Female 78 Norway
Abe Torgerson Brother-in-law Male 40 Norway
Neighbors to Joseph & Susan Boyd in Census-1900
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Oscar Torgerson Head Male 33 Norway
Susan Torgerson Mother Female 67 Norway Senneva Torgerson, mother to Lena (Helga), Oscar, Ole and Abe (Abraham?)
Ole Torgerson Brother Male 29 Norway
Enger Nelson Servant Female 24 Norway
Census-1900
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Knute Nelson Head M 36 Norway
Helgas S Nelson Wife F 28 Norway
Tome E Nelson Son M 8 Illinois
Mattie E Nelson Daughter F 7 Illinois
Nels Nelson Son M 15 Illinois
Celia H Nelson Daughter F 3 Illinois
Bertie R Nelson Daughter F 0 Illinois |
Edited by - jwiborg on 25/02/2018 01:06:28 |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2018 : 01:33:57
|
Here is a marriage of a Oscar Torgerson in Kankakee, mother is Susan Nelson (Synneva?}
Oscar Torgerson
in the Illinois, County Marriage Records, 1800-1940
Name: Oscar Torgerson
Gender: Male
Age: 37
Birth Date: abt 1866
Marriage Date: 23 Dec 1903
Marriage Place: Kankakee, Illinois, USA
Father: Tom Togerson
Mother: Susan Nelson
Spouse: Gustie Josephson
Film Number: 001839994
She is called Susan Nelson here but she has to be Synneve Abelsdatter married to Torger Aslaksen parents of Helga, Aslak and Abel.
Helga Aseline Torgersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Helga Aseline Torgersen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 3 jan 1865
Baptism Date: 22 jan 1865
Baptism Place: , Olen, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Torger Aslaksen
Mother: Synneve Abelsdr
FHL Film Number: 124511
|
Edited by - AntonH on 25/02/2018 01:39:14 |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2018 : 01:56:53
|
So Synneva or Sonnove is the sister of Agathe Abelsdatter mother of Abel Mikkel and Mikkel Elias Nelson. Where does the name Nelson come from?
Name: Agathe Abelsdr
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 5 apr 1828
Baptism Date: 6 apr 1828
Baptism Place: Fjelberg, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Abel Pedersen
Mother: Helga Nielsdr
And
Name: Sonneve Abelsdr
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 4 mar 1831
Baptism Date: 6 mar 1831
Baptism Place: Fjelberg, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Abel Pedersen
Mother: Helga Nielsdr
Here is a Niels
Name: Niels Abelsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 mai 1826 (11 May 1826)
Baptism Date: 14 mai 1826 (14 May 1826)
Baptism Place: Fjelberg, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Abel Pedersen
Mother: Helga Nielsdr
|
Edited by - AntonH on 25/02/2018 02:13:59 |
|
|
|
jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2018 : 02:11:30
|
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
So Synneva or Sonnove is the sister of Agathe Abelsdatter mother of Abel Mikkel and Mikkel Elias Nelson. Where does the name Nelson come from?
Name: Agathe Abelsdr
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 5 apr 1828
Baptism Date: 6 apr 1828
Baptism Place: Fjelberg, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Abel Pedersen
Mother: Helga Nielsdr
And
Name: Sonneve Abelsdr
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 4 mar 1831
Baptism Date: 6 mar 1831
Baptism Place: Fjelberg, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Abel Pedersen
Mother: Helga Nielsdr
Here is a Niels could he be the father of the children?
Name: Niels Abelsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 mai 1826 (11 May 1826)
Baptism Date: 14 mai 1826 (14 May 1826)
Baptism Place: Fjelberg, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Abel Pedersen
Mother: Helga Nielsdr
Great find Anton. Agathe Abelsdatter's husband was Niels Mikkelsen |
Edited by - jwiborg on 25/02/2018 02:12:09 |
|
|
|
jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2018 : 02:25:57
|
A geni page for the sisters Agathe and Synneve Abelsdr from Dørheim farm in Ølen, Fjelberg, Hordaland.
|
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 25/02/2018 : 02:34:21
|
Well some data but in looking at a tree for Niels Abelsen, it does not seem likely that he is the father of any of the three Nelson children, Dina, Hockse and Ida.
There are a lot of connections between families but still no parents of Dina, Hokse or Ida or even one of them. |
Edited by - AntonH on 25/02/2018 02:40:06 |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
Joe A Boyd
