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AntonH
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Posted - 07/07/2018 : 17:59:55
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Lars Halvorsen Molteberg married Lisbeth Larsdtter in Borge, Østfold on Mar 13, 1816.
Lars Halvorsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Lars Halvorsen Gender: Male Age: 44 Birth Date: 1772 Marriage Date: 13 mar 1816 Marriage Place: Borge, Ostfold, Norway Spouse: Lisbeth Larsdr FHL Film Number: 125861 Reference ID: 2:PR2KCQ
Original record number 6 bottom record left hand page
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Based on the age given in the marriage record and the birth year calculated from that year, this is likely Lars Halvorsen living with his sister and their family on Sandheia Nordre in the 1801 Census.
Lars 1801
Based on the same sort of calculation and the fact that Torp is listed as the farm for Lisbeth in the marriage record this is likely her with her parents Lars Nielsen and Anne Nielsdatter on Torp Søndre in the 1801 Census.
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Edited by - AntonH on 07/07/2018 22:57:04 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/07/2018 : 22:56:33
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Likely the baptism record for Lisbeth Larsdatter born in 1796
Lispeth Larsdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927Name: Lispeth Larsdatter [Lispeth Nilsen] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 22 mai 1796 (22 May 1796) Baptism Place: Borge, Østfold, Norway Father: Lars Nilsen Mother: Anne Nilsdatter FHL Film Number: 125860 Reference ID: BK2 P15 CN15
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Edited by - AntonH on 07/07/2018 23:00:56 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/07/2018 : 23:09:37
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This is likely the baptism record for Lars Halvorsen.
Lars Halvorsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Lars Halvorsen Gender: Male Baptism Date: 12 jan 1772 Baptism Place: Borge, Østfold, Norway Father: Halvor Balteröd FHL Film Number: 125860 Reference ID: bk1 cn2
Middle column near the top; look for Lars
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There is a first son named Lars who was born in 1769 and his baptism record is shown below. However he died in 1771.
The original record is a little hard to find in the messy left hand page. But look for the words "Borge Halvor Balterød and the underlined Lars which follows. About the middle of the page.
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One indicator that this is the correct record is the record for his sister. Which as an added bonus gives a last name for Halvor.
Anna Halvorsdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Anna Halvorsdatter Gender: Female Baptism Date: 26 des 1764 (26 Dec 1764) Baptism Place: Borge, Østfold, Norway Father: Halvor Andersen Balterod FHL Film Number: 125860 Reference ID: Bk1
Original record is right hand page last record for 1864.
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Interesting is the fact that there is a Halvor Andersen born in 1732 living on Balterød in the 1801 Census.
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Edited by - AntonH on 08/07/2018 03:08:12 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/07/2018 : 00:23:38
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Now we have gotten the ancestry of your Helga Anette Molteberg back far enough in time to make it interesting. I notice that the Dag Thalberg Tree does have a source so that is positive. There is also a Tree on Geni.com covering the same family but without sources. Here is a look at the family tree for these two online trees.
Laurids Jonsen Lilleborge born 1611 Engebret Lauridsen Lilleborge born 1652 Jon Ingebretsen Lilleborge no birth date given Lars Jonsen Lilleborge born 1712 Helle Larsdatter Balterød born 1739 died 1795 Unfortunately her death year is just before the 1801 Census so she is not with her husband in the 1801 Census. She married Halvor Andersen Balterød born 1732 and who we did find in the 1801 Census The next set of descendants have good records shown above Lars Halvorsen born 1769 Johan Larsen born 1833 Helga Anette Molteberg born 1869
The Taleberg Family Tree does not include Lars Halvorsen but does include his sister Anne born 1764. The link below starts at Anne.
Taleberg
And the Geni.com Tree begins with Halvor Andersen Balterød born 1732 and goes back in time.
Geni.com
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Edited by - AntonH on 08/07/2018 03:10:37 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/07/2018 : 00:52:42
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Here is a baptism record for a Helle with a date that fits Helle Larsdatter Balterød of a baptism on 22 feb 1739.. I can not make out the names of the parents very well. Looks like Lars ? and ? Nielsdatter.
The farm name maybe Heie ?
Mothers name maybe Sigri?
So parents are likely Lars Jonsen Heie and Sigri Niesdatter
See the third record right hand page
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A record for her sister can be found as well.
Dorthe Larsdatter in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Dorthe Larsdatter [Dorthe Jonsen] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 8 sep 1743 Baptism Place: Borge, Østfold, Norway Father: Lars Jonsen Mother: Sigri Nilsdatter FHL Film Number: 125860 Reference ID: BK1
Original record is seventh record down right hand page
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Edited by - AntonH on 08/07/2018 23:37:56 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/07/2018 : 19:06:40
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Husband of the above listed Helle Larsdatter is Halvor Andersen Balterød. This is likely the baptism record for him.
Halvor Andersen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Halvor Andersen Gender: Male Baptism Date: 2 mar 1732 Baptism Place: Borge, Østfold, Norway Father: Anders Halvorsen Mother: Gioran Johansdatter FHL Film Number: 125860 Reference ID: bk1
Original record see second record from bottom of right hand page
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Helle (Helgie) Larsdatter married Halvor Andersen in 1861
Helgie Larsdatter in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Helgie Larsdatter Gender: Female Marriage Date: 15 apr 1761 Marriage Place: Borge, Oslo, Norway Spouse: Halvor Andersen FHL Film Number: 125860 Reference ID: BK1
Original record is second record from the bottom of far left page
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Edited by - AntonH on 08/07/2018 23:29:58 |
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eibache
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Posted - 08/07/2018 : 20:09:03
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The parents and siblings of Halvor Ingebrigtsen in 1801.
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eibache
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Posted - 08/07/2018 : 20:15:13
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The parents and a brother of Søborg Roaldsdatter (Roalsdatter) in 1801.
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AntonH
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Posted - 08/07/2018 : 23:47:10
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We have started to run out of useable parish records while pushing the Family Tree of Helga Anette Molteberg back in time. The furthest I can go back is the marriage of Lars Jonsen and Sigri Nielsdatter the parents of Helle Larsdatter. Here is their marriage record.
Lars Jonsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Lars Jonsen Gender: Male Marriage Date: 12 aug 1736 Marriage Place: Borge, Oslo, Norway Spouse: Sigri Nielsdatter FHL Film Number: 125860 Reference ID: Bk1
These are actually a combination of the engagement date and the later marriage. Original record is the third record down in the second column from the left.
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Edited by - AntonH on 08/07/2018 23:51:19 |
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