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steven1beckler
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 Posted - 22/08/2018 : 21:22:08
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I am looking for the birth and marriage record for Torborg Asbionsdatter.
She is listed as the mother of two children (both at Sokndal,Norway):
Andreas Berntsen b.22Sep1807 (bp.24th) https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/15865/161
Andreas Berntsen b.20Sep1811 (bp.29th) -my ancestor https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/15866/20
according to Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927 familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5M1-9H4 - FHL microfilm 948.31S3 V26H -I have not seen a primary records for this source
1833 Sokndal Parish records list her death as:
14Oct 19Oct Torborg Asbjornsdatter faderaardrinds? 63 aag Qvivaag
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/1659/229
She is listed on the 1801 census at Toxen, Sokndal, Rogaland,Norway -(a few farms away from Qvivaag)
Torborg Asbiørnsdatter 30 unmarried maid
It looks like she is in the household of a sister, Guri (age 38)
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/58347/39
I found a Guri Asbionsdatter bp.23Jun1765 -d/o Asbioren Larsen :Mÿstes in the Soknal parish records but am not sure if this is Torborg's sister.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/15865/19
BERENT TORKILDSEN :Qvivaag
bp.03Apr1743 Sokndal,Rogaland,Norway conf.1753[4] Sokndal,Rogaland,Norway m.(1) 18Dec1766 Gunnild Olsdatter (1721-15Mar1789 Sokndal,Norway) (2) 30May1789 Anne Larsdatter (b.1764-bur.02Mar1806 Qvivaag,Sokndal,Norway) at Sokndal,Rogaland,Norway (3) c1806 Torborg Asbjornsdatter (c1770-14Oct1833 Qvivaag,Sokndal,Norway) bur.07Dec1815 Sokndal,Rogaland,Norway
Any help would be great - Thank you. |
Edited by - steven1beckler on 22/08/2018 22:36:40 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 22:18:33
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Sorry but none of your links work. Here is her 1801 census record
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/08/2018 22:19:06 |
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steven1beckler
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 22:21:35
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They should work now
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eibache
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 22:31:30
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Andreas Berntsen, b Sept 22, Bapt. Sept 27, see 2nd record right page.
Father Bernt Qvivaag. |
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eibache
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 22:37:25
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Andreas Berntsen, b. Sept 20, bapt Sept 29, see 2nd from bottom of right page.
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steven1beckler
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 22:41:33
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Originally posted by eibache
Andreas Berntsen, b. Sept 20, bapt Sept 29, see 2nd from bottom of right page.
Thank you. Both those records are linked in my original post.
I'm only needing to find Torborg's birth and marriage records -neither of which I have been able to locate in the archive records.
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eibache
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 22:54:55
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Bernt Qviwaag, his wife and children in 1801.
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 23:02:56
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The parents of Guri Asbjørnsdatter are Asbjørn Larsen and Guri Alfsdatter
Link
The only other children I have found for these parents is Gunvor born 1769 and Alv 1772
First record in 1769
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So the only thing to do is scroll though the parish records from this point forward lookin for Torborg.
I did not find her, and reached a male Alv baptism June 21, 1772
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Going further I find an Anna Marie baptism Oct 24, 1775.
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There is room for an Torborg in there but I have not found her. |
Edited by - AntonH on 22/08/2018 23:38:29 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 23:09:03
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quote:
Originally posted by steven1beckler
1833 Sokndal Parish records list her death as:
14Oct 19Oct Torborg Asbjornsdatter faderaardrinds? 63 aag Qvivaag
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/1659/229
Any help would be great - Thank you.
Føderaadskvinde. Torborg was former owner of the farm with free supplies on the farm for the rest of her life even if the farm was sold |
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steven1beckler
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 23:49:13
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Originally posted by lyndal40
The parents of Guri Asbjørnsdatter are Asbjørn Larsen and Guri Alfsdatter
Link
The only other children I have found for these parents is Gunvor born 1769 and Alv 1772
First record in 1769
Link
So the only thing to do is scroll though the parish records from this point forward lookin for Torborg.
I did not find her, and reached a male Alv baptism June 21, 1772
Link
Going further I find an Anna Marie baptism Oct 24, 1775.
Link
There is room for an Torborg in there but I have not found her.
I, too, have found these records since the original post. Asbiorn & Guri were married 05Mar1761 and had
Lars (13Dec1761), Guri (23Jun1765), Gunvor (06Jul1769), Alv (03May1772) and Anna Maria (24Sep1775)
I have also found Guri's grand parents and great grandparents, but like you, can't find Torborg. Thank you for your contiuned help !!
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steven1beckler
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Posted - 22/08/2018 : 23:53:45
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Føderaadskvinde. Torborg was former owner of the farm with free supplies on the farm for the rest of her life even if the farm was sold
Thank you !!
Does that mean she may not have lived on the farm at the time of her death ?? |
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peder
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Posted - 23/08/2018 : 00:15:11
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Last Name : BERNTSEN
First Name : Andreas
Gender : M
Place of Birth : Sokndal,Rogaland,Norway
Date of Birth : 09/20/1811
Father's name : QVIVAAG
Father's First Name : Bernt
Gender of father : M
Mother's Last Name : ASBIORNSDTR
Mother's First Name : Torborg
Torborg Qvivaag (born Asbiornsdtr)
Birth: 1769
Ytre Jendal, Bakke, Vest-Agder, Norge
Marriage: Marriage to: <Private>
1806
Death: 1833
Kvievåg (13), Sokndal, Rogaland, Norge
Family members
Husband: Bernt Torkelson Kvievåg
1743 - 1815
andreas Berntsen 1811 right side
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/15866/20
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peder
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JaneC
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Posted - 23/08/2018 : 00:49:38
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quote:
Originally posted by steven1beckler
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Føderaadskvinde. Torborg was former owner of the farm with free supplies on the farm for the rest of her life even if the farm was sold
Thank you !!
Does that mean she may not have lived on the farm at the time of her death ??
Since she was described as "føderaadskvinde" in her death record, she was living there when she died. When a farm was passed along from the older generation (needing or wanting to retire), to others, the older people still needed a place to live and a means of sustenance. So the farm was passed along on condition that the older person would stay on - not as owner, but as a rent-free lodger who would be provided for. The older person "came with the farm," so to speak.
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steven1beckler
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Posted - 23/08/2018 : 01:05:13
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Originally posted by peder
Last Name : BERNTSEN
First Name : Andreas
Gender : M
Place of Birth : Sokndal,Rogaland,Norway
Date of Birth : 09/20/1811
Father's name : QVIVAAG
Father's First Name : Bernt
Gender of father : M
Mother's Last Name : ASBIORNSDTR
Mother's First Name : Torborg
Torborg Qvivaag (born Asbiornsdtr)
Birth: 1769
Ytre Jendal, Bakke, Vest-Agder, Norge
Marriage: Marriage to: <Private>
1806
Death: 1833
Kvievåg (13), Sokndal, Rogaland, Norge
Family members
Husband: Bernt Torkelson Kvievåg
1743 - 1815
andreas Berntsen 1811 right side
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/15866/20
I do not understand where this information comes from. Where can I find the original record regarding Torborg being "born Asbiornsdatter Birth: 1769 Ytre Jendal, Bakke, Vest-Agder, Norge".
I have the baptismal record for Andreas and I don't see any mention of his mother's name. Am I misssing it ? (I don't speak norwegian so have been figuring a lot of this out by deductive reasoning)
I have also seen the record where Torborg was a sponsor for Anne Gurie. Not being familiar with norwegian records I am not sure of the significance of this record to my research.
Thank for your help !
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steven1beckler
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Posted - 23/08/2018 : 01:25:04
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Based on the information Peder posted, it appears that this would be a birth record for Torborg...
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9407/184
If I'm reading it right, she is the daughter of Asbiorn Carlsen. |
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