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cdahl
Medium member
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 Posted - 11/09/2018 : 16:44:25
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| There is much discussion in our family currently concerning the surnames of Wee and Vee. Two of my husbands aunts married Vee brothers - Thomas Vee and Soren (Sam) Vee. They were sons of Tomas Oleson Hjelle Vee who was born August 24, 1846 in Aardal, Sogn and died on June 6, 1913 in North Dakota and is buried at Dell Lutheran, rural Frost, Faribault Co., MN. We know this family along with the Dahl/Voldal's are from the Aardal, Sogn area of Norway. BUT, Sivert Dahl, a brother of the sisters that married the Vee brothers, married Thea R. Wee, daughter of Ola T. Wee. Ola and his wife Olina emigrated in 1892 living in Emerald Twp., Faribault Co., Mn, until approximately 1899 moving to the Ransom, North Dakota area. Many family members thought Wee was Vee spoken with Norwegian accent. Now I see that it is completely different. Is there any way we can find where Ola and Olina Wee lived while in Norway? Or is there a connection between Vee and Wee? Confusing, I know but it has been confusing to this family for many, many years! Thank you for any help! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2018 : 21:17:24
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Ola T. Wee is an older brother of Thomas Vee and Soren (Sam) Vee. He emigrated with wife and son the year before his parents and siblings.
Tomas Oleson Hjelle Vee & Kari Bårdsdatter Tangen had the following 7 children (3 died young):
1. Ola 1870-1871
2. Ola 1872 => Ola T. Wee emigrated 28.04.1892
3. Thomas 1874
4. Ella 1875 emigrated w/parents 27.04.1893
5. Thomas 1878 emigrated w/parents 27.04.1893
6. Søren 1880 emigrated w/parents 27.04.1893
7. Ranveig 1883-1884
Vee farm
The family originates from a subfarm named Naustehaugen under main farm Vee in Årdal. Directly translated, Naustehaugen means "Boathouse heap", so the farm was likely located on a small rounded elevation in the landscape next to the Årdalsfjord, possibly where it reads Naustbukti on the map. Vee farm marked by X.
Vee main building today, in the middle of the picture. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 11/09/2018 23:10:46 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2018 : 21:31:43
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Thomas and Kari on Osene in the 1875 Census. Two children at that time Ole (Ola) 1872 and Elllen (Ella).
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Ole was born July 14, 1872.
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Thomas Olsen Jelde (Hjelle) married Kari Baardsdatter Tangen on Dec 7, 1870.
Fathers were Ole Tomas Jelde and Baard Svensen Tangen.
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Kari Baardsdtter Tangen was born June 26, 1840. Mother was Mari Olsdatter Hestetun. Kari was born out of wedlock. I have not found a marriage record for Baard Svendsen and Mari Olsdatter.
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Baard Svendsen seems to have been a busy fellow. He had a son Svend with Kari Eriksdatter also out of wedlock in 1842.
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He finally married a Randi Olsdatter May 19, 1844 and had two children with her a Soffie born Jan 19, 1844 and an Ole on April 27, 1845. Marriage Link, Father is Svend Johannessen Tangen.
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Thomas Olsen Jelde was born Aug 24, 1846. Father was Ole Tomas Jelde and mother was Eli Thorbjørnsdatter
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Ole Thomassen Jelde married Eli Thorbjørnsdatter on Nov 26, 1837.
Fathers were Thomas Olsen Jelde and Torbjørn.
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Edited by - AntonH on 11/09/2018 22:55:45 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/09/2018 : 23:15:29
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Baard Svendsen from above was born August 17, 1817. Father was Svend Johansen and mother was Kari Johansdatter.
Middle right hand page
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Svend Johansen married Kari Johansdatter on October 8, 1814 in Lærdal, Sogn Og Fjordane, Norway. Farm is Skaareisa Borgens and Husum.
Middle left page
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peder
Advanced member
USA
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Posted - 11/09/2018 : 23:33:03
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from my heritage ,paid tree site
Ole Thomassen Ve
1872 - 1923
Birth: 1872
Årdal, Jøster, Sogn og Fjordane, Norge
Death: 1923
Faribault County, Minnesota, United States
Family members
Parents:
Thomas Olsen Vee
1846 - 1913
Kari Olsen Vee (født Bårdsdatter Hestetun)
1840 - 1927
Ex-wife:
Sigrid Tholefsen Lægreid (født Olsdatter Lægreid)
1871 - 1962
Children:
Anna Holm (født Olsdatter Lægreid)
1890 - 1980
Johannes Olsen Lægreid
1897 - ?
Sverre Lægreid
Tolleiv Olsen Lægreid
1894 - ?
Hansina Olsdatter Lægreid
1899 - ? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2018 : 23:49:22
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Eli Thorbjørnsdatter from above is most likely the Eli born Sept 27, 1812 in Luster, Sogn og Fjordane. Father was Torbiorn Olsen and mother was Ingri Aabølle
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/09/2018 : 00:14:29
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Originally posted by peder
from my heritage ,paid tree site
Ole Thomassen Ve
1872 - 1923
Birth: 1872
Årdal, Jøster, Sogn og Fjordane, Norge
Death: 1923
Faribault County, Minnesota, United States
Family members
Parents:
Thomas Olsen Vee
1846 - 1913
Kari Olsen Vee (født Bårdsdatter Hestetun)
1840 - 1927
Ex-wife:
Sigrid Tholefsen Lægreid (født Olsdatter Lægreid)
1871 - 1962
Children:
Anna Holm (født Olsdatter Lægreid)
1890 - 1980
Johannes Olsen Lægreid
1897 - ?
Sverre Lægreid
Tolleiv Olsen Lægreid
1894 - ?
Hansina Olsdatter Lægreid
1899 - ?
This must be wrong.Tolleiv, Johannes and Hansine are children of Ole Torleivsson Lægreid and Sigrid Olsdatter Natvik. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2018 : 01:28:41
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The Anna listed in the Tree was born Dec 16, 1890. Her parents are listed as Sigrid Olsdatter Natvik and Ole Thomassen Ve. She is listed as being born out of wedlock.
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The Meta list from the info Jackie provided shows only Ole, Oline and son Thomas born 1891 leaving Bergen in 1892.
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And in the 1900 Norwegian Census we find the family of Ole Tolleivsen Lægreid and Sigrid Olsdatter with four children, Anna and the other three mentioned by Jan Peter on Haugen.
1900
So the owner of the Tree has cobbled together two different families
A side issue is the name of the father of Anna, the record shows him as Ole Thomaasen but perhaps that is an error and he is really Ole Tolleivsen as in the Census. .
Ole Tolleivsen Lægreid married Sigrid Olsdatter Natvig July 3, 1894
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Their son Tolleif was born Dec 3, 1894.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2018 : 01:58:05
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It is not surprising that cobbling together occurs, especially since there are at least two Ole Thomasson in Lådal at this time.
An Ole Thomassen married a Severina Syversdatter on May 29, 1891
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And they with family an be found in 1900 Norwegian Census.
1900
And the Ole Thomassen we have been following married Oline Haaversdatter on Nov 6, 1891.
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And this family left Bergen in 1892 so cannot be found in the 1900 Norwegian Census. But was found by Jackie in the 1900 US Census. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2018 : 09:34:56
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Originally posted by cdahl
There is much discussion in our family currently concerning the surnames of Wee and Vee. Two of my husbands aunts married Vee brothers - Thomas Vee and Soren (Sam) Vee. They were sons of Tomas Oleson Hjelle Vee who was born August 24, 1846 in Aardal, Sogn and died on June 6, 1913 in North Dakota and is buried at Dell Lutheran, rural Frost, Faribault Co., MN. We know this family along with the Dahl/Voldal's are from the Aardal, Sogn area of Norway. BUT, Sivert Dahl, a brother of the sisters that married the Vee brothers, married Thea R. Wee, daughter of Ola T. Wee. Ola and his wife Olina emigrated in 1892 living in Emerald Twp., Faribault Co., Mn, until approximately 1899 moving to the Ransom, North Dakota area. Many family members thought Wee was Vee spoken with Norwegian accent. Now I see that it is completely different. Is there any way we can find where Ola and Olina Wee lived while in Norway? Or is there a connection between Vee and Wee? Confusing, I know but it has been confusing to this family for many, many years! Thank you for any help!
Wee, Vee, Ve; Different spellings, same pronunciation.
The name comes from a holy place in pagan times.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/09/2018 : 17:08:51
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Wee, Vee, Ve; Different spellings, same pronunciation.
The name comes from a holy place in pagan times.
Pagan times?
The first mentioning of the farm name Ve is 300 years after the Christianity of Norway.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2018 : 18:55:00
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Originally posted by cdahl
Many family members thought Wee was Vee spoken with Norwegian accent. Now I see that it is completely different.
Interesting about the origin of Ve. In any case, Kåarto's response addresses the above misunderstanding. "W" is equivalent to "V." The two sound the same in Wee and Vee. Americans could easily think the two are "completely different," but they aren't. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2018 : 19:39:45
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About the pronunciation of Ve, Vee, Wee...
I'm not 100% sure about the local dialect, but I would guess the farmname is pronounced like the first syllable in ve-ry, or as in the first syllable of the name Ve-ronica.
Ie. not as "we" as in the first syllable of wee-kend. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/09/2018 : 19:54:09
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| I find these pronunciation lessons interesting and useful. Thanks. |
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cdahl
Medium member
USA
137 Posts |
Posted - 13/09/2018 : 15:28:14
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Thanks so much for the info and discussion of Vee/Wee. Between the Dahl - Vee families; 2 sisters and 1 brother (Dahl) married 2 brothers and 1 sister (Vee)! We now understand!! Was Osene also a farm in the Aardal area? (Thomas and Kari in 1875 census)
Thank you all............... |
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