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jkmarler
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 20:27:08
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quote: Originally posted by David Wallace
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Thollak Thollaksen in Stavanger married Gabriel Larsen 2 Feb 1854
Error ! Thollak Thollaksen was father of the bride.
Put in the link so we can all see... |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 20:29:58
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There are 2 Lena Evans born in Norway living in Chicago, be wary! |
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 21:46:27
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Here is the mariage record for Rachel daughter of Tollok Tollloksen. And then her baptism recored. Not likely the same Tollok that we are looking for.
Rachel Thollaksdatter in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Rachel Thollaksdatter [Rachel Thollaksen] Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 27 Birth Date: 1827 Birth Place: Soggendal Marriage Date: 2 feb 1854 Marriage Place: Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway Father: Thollak Thollaksen Spouse: Gabriel Larsen FHL Film Number: 1282679 Reference ID: Bk3 P227 CN2
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Rachel Tollaksen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Rachel Tollaksen Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 jan 1826 Birth Place: Sokndal,Rogaland,Norway Father: Tollak Tollaksen Mother: Anne Bergithe Jonsdtr FHL Film Number: 948.31S3 V26H
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 22:06:49
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Well this is making me a little confused.
We have this record for a Olena W Tollaksen marring a Lewis Evanson in 1876.
Olive W Tollaksen in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920 Name: Olive W Tollaksen Age: 24 Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1852 Marriage Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 17 Jul 1876 Marriage Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Spouse Name: Lewis Evanson Spouse Age: 24 Spouse Gender: Male FHL Film Number: 1030097
Lewis Evanson died in 1877 and Olena Evanson marries a Thomas Duncan in 1886.
Olena Evanson in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920 Name: Olena Evanson Age: 33 Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1853 Marriage Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 25 Jun 1886 Marriage Place: Cook, Illinois Spouse Name: Thomas Duncan Spouse Age: 34 Spouse Gender: Male FHL Film Number: 1030156
And yet in a marriage record for one of the children of Thomas Duncan the mother is listed as Lena Simonson.
Fletcher Henry Duncan in the Illinois, County Marriage Records, 1800-1940 Name: Fletcher Henry Duncan Gender: Male Age: 21 Birth Date: abt 1893 Marriage Date: 4 Nov 1914 Marriage Place: Winnebago, Illinois, USA Father: Thomas Duncan Mother: Lena Simonson Spouse: Hazel Beatrice Flannery Film Number: 001914059
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Edited by - AntonH on 04/10/2018 23:19:41 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 23:39:02
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Number one could be either Gurine (Lena) born to Sussanne Marie in Norway or Olena Wilhelmenia born to Bertha in Norway.
Number two seems a little old to be either Gurine (Lena) born to Sussanne Marie in Norway or Olena Wilhelmenia born to Bertha in Norway.
Number three is the same as number two and again a little old.\
Number four could be Gurine (Lena) born to Sussanne Marie
Here is Lena as a widow in 1879.
Name: Lena Evanson Gender: Female Residence Year: 1878 Street address: 50 W Ohio Residence Place: Chicago, Illinois, USA Spouse: Lewis Evanson Publication Title: Chicago, Illinois, City Directory, 1878 |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/10/2018 02:09:07 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 23:57:08
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Theadore Duncan in the Cook County, Illinois, Birth Certificates Index, 1871-1922 Name: Theadore Duncan Birth Date: 19 May 1887 Birth Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Ethnicity: American Gender: Male Race: White Father: Thomas Duncan Mother: Olena W Evans Duncan FHL Film Number: 1287866 |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/10/2018 00:23:57 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/10/2018 : 00:44:23
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Tollak Tollaksen and wife Berthe Osmundsdatter along with two children Tollef Andreas and Olena Wilhelmenia left Stavanger for America in 1853.
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I do not see any sign of a sister of Berthe traveling with the party. |
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David Wallace
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Posted - 05/10/2018 : 02:01:50
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quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
There are 2 Lena Evans born in Norway living in Chicago, be wary!
put in a link... |
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David Wallace
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Posted - 05/10/2018 : 02:06:44
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quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
quote: Originally posted by David Wallace
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Thollak Thollaksen in Stavanger married Gabriel Larsen 2 Feb 1854
Error ! Thollak Thollaksen was father of the bride.
Put in the link so we can all see...
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N717-CQV |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/10/2018 : 02:14:00
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Wrong Tollak Tolladkson! See my post eighth post above. Tollak Tollakson and family left in 1853. See above also |
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David Wallace
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Posted - 05/10/2018 : 02:18:58
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Well this is making me a little confused.
We have this record for a Olena W Tollaksen marring a Lewis Evanson in 1876.
Olive W Tollaksen in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920 Name: Olive W Tollaksen Age: 24 Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1852 Marriage Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 17 Jul 1876 Marriage Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Spouse Name: Lewis Evanson Spouse Age: 24 Spouse Gender: Male FHL Film Number: 1030097
Lewis Evanson died in 1877 and Olena Evanson marries a Thomas Duncan in 1886.
Olena Evanson in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920 Name: Olena Evanson
And yet in a marriage record for one of the children of Thomas Duncan the mother is listed as Lena Simonson.
Fletcher Henry Duncan in the Illinois, County Marriage Records, 1800-1940 Name: Fletcher Henry Duncan Father: Thomas Duncan Mother: Lena Simonson Spouse: Hazel Beatrice Flannery Film Number: 001914059
Olena Tollaksdatter’s mother Berthe Aasmundsdatter remarried after Tollak’s death ( or divorce). Second husband Simon Erlandsen died and Bertha took simonson as her surname to match the surname Simonson of her america born children. no mystery. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/10/2018 : 02:33:20
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The mystery to me is where is Olena Wilhelmina in the 1860, and 1870 Census? Not with her mother.
In 1860 Berthe is with Simon and John, Lena, Theodore and Barton (Solomon?)
In 1870 Berthe is with Simon and John, Lena, Theodore and Severin
in 1880 Berthe is with Theodore, Barton and Lena
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David Wallace
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Posted - 05/10/2018 : 04:26:20
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
The mystery to me is where is Olena Wilhelmina in the 1860, and 1870 Census? Not with her mother.
In 1860 Berthe is with Simon and John, Lena, Theodore and Barton (Solomon?)
In 1870 Berthe is with Simon and John, Lena, Theodore and Severin
in 1880 Berthe is with Theodore, Barton and Lena
Yes with her mother. Lena=Olena Wilhelmina Tollaksdatter Bertha Simonson=Berthe Gurine Osmundsdatter= Berthe wife of Tollak Tollaksen. |
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