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synnoven
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Posted - 17/10/2018 : 16:06:07
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My greatgrandfather left Norway in 1903 heading for America. He was on the ship Hellig Olav and arrived at Ellis Island April 10th 1903. He was born in Lier, Norway January 1st 1872. His brother Bernt had emigrated earlier.
I will be grateful for every information about these two brothers. The family in Norway did not seem to have much contact with them. When their mother died in 1920, they are mentioned with unknown address in America. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/10/2018 : 17:00:24
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Emigration record is this one?
Link
Ancestry.com data base has this arrival as April 9. Would this be your Ole.
Ole Andersen Troniud in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 Name: Ole Andersen Troniud [Ole Andersen Thonrud] Arrival date: 9 Apr 1903 Birth Date: abt 1875 Age: 27 Years 6 Months Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Hellig Olav
His destination is listed as Ashby Minnesota. That is in Grant County
He is traveling to his Aunt Anne or Aste ? Hansen. |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/10/2018 18:39:57 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/10/2018 : 03:32:06
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Here are the two birth records. They will help us guide the search
Name: Ole Andersen Gender: Male Birth Date: 1 jan 1872 Baptism Date: 11 feb 1872 Baptism Place: , Lier, Buskerud, Norway Father: Anders Olsen Mother: Marie Olivia Olsdr
Name: Bernt Andersen Gender: Male Birth Date: 12 mar 1874 Baptism Date: 2 apr 1874 Baptism Place: , Lier, Buskerud, Norway Father: Anders Olsen Mother: Marie Olivia Olsdr
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peder
Advanced member
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Posted - 18/10/2018 : 15:50:49
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source: my heritage
Ole Andersen Trollerud 1872 - ? Birth: Jan 1 1872 Nordal, Lier, Buskerud, Norge Family members Parents: Anders Olsen Trollerud 1841 - 1906 Marie Oline Olsen Trollerud (født Olsdatter) 1849 - ? Wife: Jacobine Andreasdtr. Trollerud (født Nordahl) 1868 - 1945 Siblings: Martin Andersen Trollerud 1876 - 1963 Andreas Andersen Trollerud 1884 - ? Asta Lovise Andersdatter 1889 - ? <Private> Trollerud Oskar Andersen Trollerud 1880 - 1963 Hans Andersen Trollerud 1886 - 1960 Karl Andersen Trollerud 1893 - 1957 <Private> Trollerud
Son: Olaf Olsen Nordahl 1898 - 1972 Olaf Olsen Nordahl 1898 - 1972 Birth: Mar 3 1898 Nordal, Lier, Buskerud Baptism: May 30 1898 Tranby kirke, Lier, Buskerud Marriage: Marriage to: Eli Margrete Andersdatter Bakken (Nordahl) Sep 20 1919 Bragnernes kirke, Drammen, Buskerud Death: July 24 1972 Lier Buskerud Norway Burial: Tranby kirke, Lier Family members Parents: Ole Andersen Trollerud 1872 - ? Jacobine Andreasdtr. Trollerud (født Nordahl) 1868 - 1945 Wife: Eli Margrete Andersdatter Nordahl (født Bakken) 1898 - 1971 Children: Thorbjørn Nordahl 1920 - 2002 Johnny Nordahl 1927 - 1999 Lilly Kristine Nybakken (født Nordahl) 1925 - 1989
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peder
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Posted - 18/10/2018 : 15:53:28
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Bernt Trollerud 1874 - ? Otto Trollerud 1878 - ? Andreas Andersen Trollerud 1884 - ? Asta Lovise Andersdatter Trollerud 1889 - ? Martin Trollerud 1876 - 1963 Oskar Trollerud 1880 - ? Hans Andersen Trollerud 1886 - ? Karl Andersen Trollerud 1893 - 1957 |
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peder
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/10/2018 : 02:55:04
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Probably the same Bernt A Nordal
Bert A Nordall in the Web: Wisconsin, Find A Grave Index, 1836-2012Name: Bert A Nordall Birth Date: 1874 Age at Death: 46 Death Date: 1920 Burial Place: Park Falls, Price County, Wisconsin, USA
Married a Sadie Wells Nov 20, 1900
Bernt and family in 1910, no sign of Ole
1900
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Edited by - AntonH on 19/10/2018 03:01:12 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/10/2018 : 04:05:16
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This certificate dated 1941
Aurora Nilsen in the Illinois, Federal Naturalization Records, 1856-1991 Name: Aurora Nilsen Record Type: Certificate Arrival date: 23 Jul 1907 Arrival Place: New York, New York Certificate Number: 11-313591
This might explain how Aurora is related
Aurora Nilsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Aurora Nilsen Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 jan 1890 Birth Place: Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway Baptism Date: 6 apr 1890 Baptism Place: Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway Father: Martin Nilsen Mother: Hilda Trollerud FHL Film Number: 278199 Reference ID: bk 6 p 2
Not sure Hilda is related to the Anders Olsen family from Lier |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/10/2018 04:24:40 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/10/2018 : 11:43:01
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Probably the same Bernt A Nordal
Bert A Nordall in the Web: Wisconsin, Find A Grave Index, 1836-2012Name: Bert A Nordall Birth Date: 1874 Age at Death: 46 Death Date: 1920 Burial Place: Park Falls, Price County, Wisconsin, USA
Married a Sadie Wells Nov 20, 1900
Bernt and family in 1910, no sign of Ole
1900
Obituary of daughter Florence transcribed: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKW6-NHQT
Florence Louise Fuhr, 99
Fuhr
Park Falls Herald, The (WI) - Wednesday, October 27, 2004 Florence Louise Fuhr, 99, died Tuesday, Oct. 19, 2004, at Flambeau Hospital, Park Falls.
Burial will take place at a later date at Wisconsin Memorial Park, Brookfield.
She was born May 14, 1905, in Park Falls. Her parents were Bernt and Sadie (Wells) Nordall.
She was married to Leo Fuhr in Milwaukee.
She was a secretary for a retail clothing chain until her retirement.
She is survived by a brother, Robert Nordall of Park Falls; a sister, Doris (Carl) Langlois of Manitowoc; and by nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. Park Falls Herald, The (WI) - Wednesday, October 27, 2004 CITE THIS RECORD Park Falls Herald, The () , obit for Fuhr, GenealogyBank.com accessed 19 October 2018)
Obituary of son Robert transcribed: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKQP-3BDJ Robert 'Zip' Nordall
Robert 'Zip' Nordall
Daily Press, The (Ashland, WI) - Monday, June 2, 2008 Robert "Zip" W. Nordall, age 91, of Park Falls, died Thursday, May 29, 2008 at the Howard Young Medical Center in Woodruff. He was born November 16, 1916 in Park Falls, the son of Bernt and Sadie (Wells) Nordall. He married Elmyra "Peewee" Schnelle on September 28, 1940 in Park Falls.
He is survived by three sons, Danny (Barb) Nordall of Gleason, Larry Nordall of Park Falls and Dean (Anny) Nordall of La Crosse; seven grandchildren; one sister, Dori Langlois of Manitowoc; numerous nieces, nephews, relatives and friends.
He was preceded in death by his parents; his wife, Elmyra "Peewee" in 2001; an infant granddaughter, Jodie; two infant brothers; one brother, Lloyd; one infant sister; two sisters, Margaret Pollard and Florence Fuhr.
Funeral services will be held on Tuesday, June 3 at 11 a.m. from the First Congregational Church in Park Falls with Pastor Mary Jo Laabs officiating. Burial will follow at the Nola Cemetery in Park Falls with military rites under the auspices of the Wisconsin Military Funeral Honors Program.
Visitation will be held on Tuesday, June 3 from 10 a.m. until the hour of service at the church. The Novitzke Funeral Home in Park Falls is handling the arrangements. publication logo Daily Press, The (Ashland, WI) - Monday, June 2, 2008 CITE THIS RECORD Daily Press, The () , obit for Robert 'Zip' Nordall, GenealogyBank.com accessed 19 October 2018)
Grandson of Bernt: Kenneth L Or Ken Nordall, 91
Kenneth Nordall
Juneau County Star-Times (WI) - Monday, October 8, 2012 NECEDAH — Kenneth L. Nordall, 91, passed away Sept. 29, 2012, at the Mile Bluff Medical Center, Mauston.
He was born Aug. 24, 1921, to Lloyd and Vida Nordall in Park Falls.
A World War II Veteran, Ken enlisted in the U.S. Army in May of 1940. He served in the United States, Panama and France. He was honorably discharged in August 1945.
Ken was married to Beatrice Nephew on Feb. 12, 1944. He worked in the steel mills in Minnesota and then worked as a truck driver in Illinois and Wisconsin. He then moved to Oak Creek, where he worked for the Peter Cooper Corp. for 20 years, retiring in 1982.
Ken was an avid hunter and fisherman. He loved going out to Wyoming for hunting trips, making his last Wyoming trip in 2007. Ken was an active member of the American Legion Post No. 277 and the VFW Post No. 10231 in Necedah. He also was a member of St. James Lutheran Church in Necedah, where he enjoyed volunteering to cut patches for the quilts made by the church that were sent overseas. Ken also volunteered at the veterans home in Tomah, where he helped veterans play bingo.
He is survived by his wife of 68 years, Beatrice; children, Karen (Virgil) Boutain of Necedah, Cindy (Steve) Mazzoni of Milwaukee and Candy (Dave) Harp of Wichita, Kan.; grandchildren; great-grandchildren; and a great-great-grandchild.
He was preceded in death by his parents; and son, Kenneth J. Nordall.
Memorial services will be held at 11 a.m. today at St. James Lutheran Church in Necedah.
Torkelson Necedah Family Funeral Home is assisting the family with arrangements. Online condolences are available at www.torkelsonfuneralhome.com. publication logo Juneau County Star-Times (WI) - Monday, October 8, 2012 CITE THIS RECORD Juneau County Star-Times () , obit for Kenneth Nordall, GenealogyBank.com accessed 19 October 2018)
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/10/2018 : 16:47:12
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Social Security Claims Record gives a birth date as Jan 1, 1873 for Ole Olsen Nordall
Ole Olsen Nordall in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 Name: Ole Olsen Nordall Birth Date: 1 Jan 1873 Claim Date: 26 Jan 1938 SSN: 536096610 Notes: 16 Mar 1979: Name listed as OLE OLSEN NORDALL
SSN Number 536 indicates the Social Security Card was issued in the state of Washington |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/10/2018 16:51:05 |
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/10/2018 : 23:46:48
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Social Security Claims Record gives a birth date as Jan 1, 1873 for Ole Olsen Nordall
Ole Olsen Nordall in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 Name: Ole Olsen Nordall Birth Date: 1 Jan 1873 Claim Date: 26 Jan 1938 SSN: 536096610 Notes: 16 Mar 1979: Name listed as OLE OLSEN NORDALL
SSN Number 536 indicates the Social Security Card was issued in the state of Washington
I don't think that he can be ruled out because of the patronymic name. His father was Anders Olson and this often leads to that kind of hybridization.
There is an obit for him in one or other of the Tacoma newspapers. Index is found at the Tacoma Public Library site and this is what it says for him: NORDALL, OLE Date of death 1944-04-19
Date of the obituary and page 21 APR 1944 16 It might contain some details or might not. It apparently is only available on a fee basis.
Otherwise, I don't have access to a Tacoma paper with it.
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