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Anne Brit Benum
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 Posted - 18/11/2018 : 18:59:17
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...in Beitstad, North-Trøndelag. His parents were Lorenz Andersen and Johanna Margareth Estensdaughter. In 1885 - November 26 - Einar Lorentsen married Lotte Ulrikke Albrigtsen, born in 1866. This happened Bodø in Nordland - which is North of Trøndelag. This couple has emigrated to US - is it possible to find out when and to where? A very little (!) sentence has told us that they were separated in US around 1890 and that Einar returned to Norway. Can you find something about all this?
Anne
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/11/2018 : 22:02:43
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Here is Einar in the 1865 census, b Beitstaden about 1852 on a farm called Veldekløven:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038341002324
001 Lorenz Andersen 01 57 Sparboen - - g Husmand m. J. Skomager
002 Johanna Eistensdatter 01 45 Beitstaden - hans Kone g -
003 Einar Lorenzsen 01 14 Beitstaden - deres Barn Søn ug -
004 Peter Lorenzsen 01 7 Beitstaden - deres Barn Søn ug -
005 Augusta Lorenzdatter 01 17 Beitstaden - deres Datter ug -
006 Evinda Lorenzdatter 01 10 Beitstaden - deres Datter ug -
007 Justine Lorenzdatter 01 5 Beitstaden - deres Datter ug -
Lotte's birth / baptism transcribed:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000006238005 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 18/11/2018 23:42:04 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 18/11/2018 : 22:54:55
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A long shot possible:
Name Lotto J Welda
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 30 Jul 1887
Event Place Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Age 21
Nationality Norway
Birth Country Norway
Ship Name Steamship Pavonia
Citing this Record
"Massachusetts, Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1891," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KG29-DBJ : 12 March 2018), Lotto J Welda, 30 Jul 1887; citing p. , Ship Steamship Pavonia, NARA microfilm publication M277 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 104; FHL microfilm .
She is travelling with another named Louis Welde.
Name Louis Welda
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 30 Jul 1887
Event Place Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States
Age 0
Nationality Norway
Birth Country Norway
Ship Name Steamship Pavonia
Citing this Record
"Massachusetts, Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1891," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KG29-DBV : 12 March 2018), Louis Welda, 30 Jul 1887; citing p. , Ship Steamship Pavonia, NARA microfilm publication M277 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 104; FHL microfilm .
The Norwegian side of the equation:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000092225
Still together in 1885:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053305000166
Einar listed as "single" in 1900:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037553001473
Possibly this Louis in 1900, living with his aunt and uncle:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037487001262
And he went back to US in 1906:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000171953
#21 Louis Albert son of Einar Lorentzen Velde and Lotte Ulrikke
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 739/L0371: Parish register (official) no. 739A03, 1881-1895, p. 27
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060925090244
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/11/2018 : 00:55:08
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Lottte and Einar divorced in 1890.
Lottie M Welden
in the New Hampshire, Marriage and Divorce Records, 1659-1947
Name: Lottie M Welden
Gender: Female
Record Type: Divorce
Marriage Date: Oct 1885
Divorce Date: Oct 1890
Divorce Place: New Hampshire, USA
Spouse: Einer Welden
He applied for Naturalization in 1892
Einar Weldon
in the U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: Einar Weldon
Birth Date: abt 1852
Birth Place: Sweden
Age at event: 40
Court District: Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Vermont
Year of Arrival: 1869
Date of Action: 5 Nov 1892
Then Einar must have returned to Norway in 1895
Einrad Welden
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Einrad Welden
Arrival Age: 42
Birth Date: abt 1853
Port of Departure: Boston, Massachusetts, United States
Arrival date: 13 Dec 1895
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Scythia
Shipping line: Frank Carey
Official Number: 71693 |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/11/2018 01:00:10 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/11/2018 : 01:07:50
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The attraction in New Hampshire was apparently the sister of Einar, named Evinda.
Evinda emigrated in 1888
Link
And married in New Hampshire
Evinda Welden
in the New Hampshire, Marriage Records Index, 1637-1947
Name: Evinda Welden
Marriage Date: 1 Dec 1888
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Place: Keene, Cheshire, New Hampshire
Birth Date: abt 1855
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Spouse Name: Lars Henrickson
Spouse Age: 25
Spouse Gender: Male
Spouse Father's Name: Henrick
Spouse Mother's Name: Brita Neilson
FHL Film Number: 1001266
Eineda L Henrickson
in the New Hampshire, Death and Burial Records Index, 1654-1949
Name: Eineda L Henrickson
[Evinda Lorensdatter Welden Henrickson]
[Eineda L Welden]
Gender: Female
Death Date: 21 Nov 1920
Death Place: Keene, Cheshire, New Hampshire
Father Name: Lawrence Welden
Mother Name: Joanna Estenette
Spouse Name: Lars Henrickson
Event Type: Death
FHL Film Number: 2080191 |
Edited by - AntonH on 19/11/2018 01:28:51 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2018 : 02:03:50
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Well, she was Lotte Lund in 1885 perhaps this is her in 1910 as Lottie Lunder:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPXL-5TH
Still in South Dakota but detail means less likely:
Name Lottie Lunder
Age 51
Birth Year (Estimated) 1864
Gender Female
Race White
Birthplace Norway
Nationality Norwegian
Marital Status Single
Event Place South Dakota, United States
Years in State 11
Arrival Year in State (Estimated) 1904
Years in United States 43
Arrival Year in the United States (Estimated) 1872
Naturalized No
Religion Lutheran
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Number 389
Citing this Record
"South Dakota State Census, 1915," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMHL-WMY : 5 August 2017), Lottie Lunder; citing State Historical Society, Pierre; FHL microfilm 2,283,800.
Name Lottie Laude
Event Type Census
Event Date 1920
Event Place Mitchell Ward 2, Davison, South Dakota, United States
Gender Female
Age 54
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household Assistant
Relationship to Head of Household Assistant
Birth Year (Estimated) 1866
Birthplace Norway
Immigration Year 1872
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Letter A
Sheet Number 10
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6JZ-Y5G : accessed 19 November 2018), Lottie Laude in household of Willaim F Pascoe, Mitchell Ward 2, Davison, South Dakota, United States; citing ED 70, sheet 10A, line 31, family 245, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1716; FHL microfilm 1,821,716.
Name Lottie Lunder
Event Type Census
Event Date 1930
Event Place Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota, United States
Gender Female
Age 67
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Birth Year (Estimated) 1863
Birthplace Norway
Immigration Year 1870
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Sheet Letter B
Sheet Number 23
Joseph O Loff Head M 67 Sweden
Belle Loff Wife F 64 Michigan
Lottie Lunder Lodger F 67 Norway
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3DX-5V9 : accessed 19 November 2018), Lottie Lunder in household of Joseph O Loff, Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 59, sheet 23B, line 70, family 390, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 1126; FHL microfilm 2,340,861.
Here is a very likely candidate in the 1865 census and not the target Lotte:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038014002309
She came with her parents & siblings in 1869:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000398427
Back to the drawing board....
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Edited by - jkmarler on 19/11/2018 22:32:12 |
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Anne Brit Benum
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260 Posts |
Posted - 19/11/2018 : 03:06:22
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Thank you very much for exciting answers!!!
Best regards,
Anne Benum
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