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TomHammer
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 Posted - 15/11/2018 : 20:49:39
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Can someone translate this entry, line 26:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9162/44498/33
I found records that Christian Einersen and Ann Olsdr had at least 3 children: Peder (Valer, 1930), Christiandatter (Hof, 1835), and Embret (Hof, 1837). However, I know from Peder's birth record, they were not married before his birth.
I'm looking for their marriage record and wonder if this is it?
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2018 : 22:45:08
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Ancestry.com gives this transcription for the marriage record you have linked to.
Christian Eriksen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Christian Eriksen
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1806
Marriage Date: 20 okt 1831 (20 Oct 1831)
Marriage Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Erik Olsen
Spouse: Olia Pedersdr
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:Z38WWD
Name: Olia Pedersdr
[Olia Hansen]
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1810
Marriage Date: 20 okt 1831 (20 Oct 1831)
Marriage Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Peder Hansen
Spouse: Christian Eriksen
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:Z38WWD |
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TomHammer
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Posted - 15/11/2018 : 22:48:19
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| Thanks. This would not be it then. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2018 : 22:49:18
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The spelling of the last name differs slightly and the marriage year is later than you seem to be seeking but here is a potential record. Also not Anne Olsdatter as bride.
Christian Arnesen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Christian Arnesen
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Birth Date: 1806
Marriage Date: 20 nov 1838
Marriage Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Arne Olsen
Spouse: Anne Pedersdr
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:Z3973L
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TomHammer
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Posted - 15/11/2018 : 23:00:03
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Don't think so. Here is the birth record of their child Peder Christiansen:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9162/44494/114 Line 138.
So, I'm looking for a marriage date or birth date of either parent.
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/11/2018 : 23:08:06
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They were not married when Embret was born. Do you know that they married?
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TomHammer
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Posted - 15/11/2018 : 23:11:24
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| No, I don't know for sure, just assumed. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/11/2018 : 01:15:19
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
They were not married when Embret was born. Do you know that they married?
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holy cannoli!
The small print on the right hand page says Christian has fathered 5 without benefit of marriage and she has mothered 3 likewise. Another woman is named as mother of 1 or 2. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/11/2018 : 01:27:03
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Sharp eyes Jackie, Here is one of the children that Christian Einersen had with Olia Larsdatter .
Christopher Christiansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Christopher Christiansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 nov 1827
Baptism Date: 8 des 1827 (8 Dec 1827)
Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Christian Einersen
Mother: Olia Larsdr
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:1H39P58
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And likely a second one
Marthea Christiansdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Marthea Christiansdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 jul 1830
Baptism Date: 25 jul 1830
Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Christian Einersen
Mother: Olia Larsdr
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:1H3BDFH
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/11/2018 : 01:48:38
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Without a marriage record it is a little difficult to know who the father of Christian Einersen is. In the transcribed baptism records for a Christian Einersen in Hof, Hedmark there are only three hits.
Xstian Ejnersen (b. 1792*)
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Christian Ejnersen (b. 1809*)
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Christian Einersen (b. 1815*)
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The one born in 1809 caught my eye since the father is Ejner Hendrechsen with the farm name of Lundbye.
This Einer or Ejener has another son named Knut born in 1806.
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In the baptism records for the various children of Christian Einersen posted above the farm name Lundbye is found and in the baptism records for Peder there is a Knut Einersen Lundbye. |
Edited by - AntonH on 17/11/2018 00:52:22 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 16/11/2018 : 08:51:06
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There are marriages for Christian Einarsen in Hof in 1836 and 1854. In the familysearch transcription his birth year is given as 1814-1815 and his father in one is Einar Arnesen and Einar Anderson in the other. It may be the same man.
Anyway, there is a man from the 2nd marriage still living in 1875 Norwegian census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7N3-7X5 |
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jkmarler
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TomHammer
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Posted - 16/11/2018 : 17:47:02
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I would say it's unlikely the Christian Einersen b. 1814-15 is not the one, since he would have been 12 or 13 when Christopher Christiansen was born in 1827.
What's also interesting, if it's the same person, was that Peder was born (2 July 1830) 14 days earlier than Marthea (16 July 1830) - same father, different mothers. I'd like to be a fly on the wall for that! |
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TomHammer
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Posted - 16/11/2018 : 17:59:52
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Without a marriage record it is a little difficult to know who the father of Christian Einersen is. In the transcribed baptism records for a Christian Einersen in Hof, Hedmark there are only three hits.
Xstian Ejnersen (b. 1792*)
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Christian Ejnersen (b. 1809*)
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Christian Einersen (b. 1815*)
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The one born in 1809 caught my eye since the father is Ejner Hendrechsen with the farm name of Lundbye.
This Einer or Ejener has another son named Knut born in 1896.
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In the baptism records for the various children of Christian Einersen posted above the farm name Lundbye is found and in the baptism records for Peder there is a Knut Einersen Lundbye.
The link from 1809 states "E: Christian fĝdt 16. desember, av legd nr. 69." in the Remarks. Does this indicate that Chrisitan Einersen was born 16 December? |
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