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AntonH
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Posted - 05/06/2019 : 19:19:45
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Klaafjord records seem to be part of Talviik in 1821. Here is the only record found for an Eva around 1825 father name Isak.
Eva Isaksen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Eva Isaksen Gender: Female Birth Date: 8 jul 1821 Baptism Date: 12 aug 1821 Baptism Place: , Talvik, Finnmark, Norway Father: Isak Andersen Mother: Elen Maria Jacobsdr FHL Film Number: 124212
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Eva
Number 3 right hand page
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Marriage of Isak and Elen Marie in 1810
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Isak in the 1801 Census, way down towards the bottom of the list
Born about 1785, mother is Eva Johannesdatter father unknown. Stepfather is Henrich Michelssen,
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Eva was confirmed in 1836 still in Talvik, residence looks like Aarø
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Another daughter in 1824
Birit Kirstine
1826 Johannes
Johannes
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Mathis
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/06/2019 : 21:30:40
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quote: Hello! I’ve been researching Maria Karoline Nilssen’s mother Eva Johanna isaksdr Lyng and I’ve found records on a Norwegian document site that show her born in 1825 in Kaafjord. It’s a census from 1866. Of course no Nils Rasmussen.
As Jackie already mentioned, you need to share the sources of your information. That would be a big help. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/06/2019 : 22:02:03
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Based on the records that I have seen I am not sure right now that we know where Eva was born or when.
There are three Eva' Isaks* in the 1875 Census in the three Northern counties of about the right age.
1 Eva Isaksdatter (b. 1823, Alkola, Finland) Alta, Moen, Finnmark
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And in 1865 but listed as being born in Sweden
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2 Eva Isaksdatter (b. 1830, Kvalsund) Hammerfest, Finnmark
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And in 1865
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3 Eva Isaksdatter (b. 1825, Karungi Finland) Tana: Golgojok, Finnmark
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In the 1865 Census there is one candidates that does not appear in the 1875 Census that I could find.
She is listed as being born in Sweden. Her husband a Mathis Rauti is also listed as being born in Sweden. However her children are listed as being born in Kaafjord. So is she really born in Sweden?
4 Eva Isaksdatter (b. 1823*, Sverige) Alta, Finnmark
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/06/2019 : 22:45:03
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The only other Eva born about 1820 that Ancestry turns up is
Eva Isaksen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Eva Isaksen Gender: Female Birth Date: 29 mar 1829 Baptism Date: 12 jul 1829 Baptism Place: , Hammerfest, Finnmark, Norway Father: Isak Eriksen Mother: Eva Johannesdr FHL Film Number: 124221
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Confirmation in 1845
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She is likely the Eva listed second in the post directly above 2
First child was born in 1853 with her first husband Aanet Olsen Laurig, married at the time, he died in 1855.
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Married first husband in 1851, father is Isac Eriksen, age is 22 1/2, named Eva Isaksdatter Survig
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/06/2019 : 23:48:30
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Here is the marriage of Eva Isacsdatter Karbui with Johan Johannes Heika. Probably 1 on the list above
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Father is Isak Larsen Karbui ?, age is 26, |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/06/2019 16:26:35 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/06/2019 : 02:23:29
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Probably one of the sources mentioned by Kim
In the 1865 Census find Eva Johana Lyng with husband John Lyng. Born abt 1825 in Kaafjord.
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John Lyng was one of the wintnesse at the marriage of Maria Karolina
John and Eva in 1875 Census living in Trondheim
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/06/2019 : 03:01:31
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This record might help quite a bit. Here is the marriage of Jon Ericksen Lyng and widow Eva Johanna Isaksdatter in 1863. Her father is Isak Mikkelsen. She was born abt 1827.
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/06/2019 : 03:19:57
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A possible Isak Mikkelsen born abt 1806 in Sweden Based on the ethnicity column the family are listed as Kv so he family is likely classified as Sami.
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Kimniehouse
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/06/2019 : 04:29:58
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There is a Isac Mikkelsen active in Talvik where the records for both Kaafjord (Kåfjord) and Alten (Alta) are found during the 1820 to 1840 time frame. Here is one of his children.
Ane Grethe Isaksen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Ane Grethe Isaksen Gender: Female Birth Date: 18 okt 1831 (18 Oct 1831) Baptism Date: 13 nov 1831 Baptism Place: , Talvik, Finnmark, Norway Father: Isak Michelsen Mother: Maria Helene Larsdr FHL Film Number: 124212
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The other one is Marie Grethe born in 1833.
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Married in 1858
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I did not find a Eva Johanna for these parents. |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/06/2019 23:46:53 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 06/06/2019 : 11:31:37
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
A possible Isak Mikkelsen born abt 1806 in Sweden Based on the ethnicity column the family are listed as Kv so he family is likely classified as Sami.
1865
My guess is that Kv stands for Kvensk, which is not the same as Sami:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kven_people |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/06/2019 : 15:10:32
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
A possible Isak Mikkelsen born abt 1806 in Sweden Based on the ethnicity column the family are listed as Kv so he family is likely classified as Sami.
1865
His wife Inger is Lp Kv which might mean Laplander Kven which illustrates that Kv (Kven) is used to designate both groups.
It also says Isack has been in Norway for 30 years, so if true, he might not be the father of Eva Johanna who was born (dates vary) 1825, 1827 but in Norway.
Who was Eva's first husband, the one who died in Bardo? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/06/2019 : 16:25:28
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In the list of confirmation for Talvik is a Eva Isaksdatter Karbin age 17 in 1842. Father is Isak Karbin. Birth place looks like Øvre Tornio?
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And from my post above
Here is the marriage of Eva Isacsdatter Karbui with Johan Johannes Heika. Probably 1 on the list above
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Father is Isak Larsen Karbui ?, age is 26,
Now it is getting a little confusing, but this may not be the same Eva Johanna who married John Lyng but one born in Finland and raised and confirmed in Talvik. |
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