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vivi
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ToreL
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AntonH
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 Posted - 12/09/2019 : 22:02:04
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Hard to keep up with you guys today.
Likely his arrival into New York
Carl Lorenten
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Carl Lorenten
Arrival Date: 14 Jun 1884
Birth Date: abt 1864
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Place of Origin: Scandinavia
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Baltic |
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/09/2019 : 22:16:18
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My old standby for posting images "Tinypics" is gone and I am struggling to find an easy to use and free image posting site. Here I used two posts to try and get a decent image on the screen using "postimage"
Ship Name: Baltic
Ship built: 1871
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Ship tonnage: 3,707 tons
Ship description: 4 masts, 1 funnel
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ToreL
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Posted - 12/09/2019 : 22:27:45
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ToreL
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Posted - 12/09/2019 : 23:05:17
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Perhaps worth noticing, Karl is entered as Karl Edvard Lorentsen Reiten in the emigrant list, and just above him in the same list, entered the same day (and born the same year) one finds Anton Julius Tørrisen Reiten. He was confirmed in Namsos in 1877:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/279/pk00000000079579 |
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MDakin
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 01:15:07
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Originally posted by ToreL
I think it is the right guy in both the 1865 and 1875 censuses above, he is just no longer living with his parents in 1875. There is no indication that he is the son in the household. But the strange thing is I don't find his confirmation in Beitstad.
Found his "konfirmant" - it was in 1879 at Klingen which is not in Beitstad but in Namsos. |
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MDakin
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MDakin
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 01:54:40
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Thank you all for your wonderful information. It is a big help to me to know this detail.
As I review the above, wondering if I am correct in the following:
Karl Lorents. (Hammer) left Namsos on May 14, 1884. He went to Trondheim. He got on a ship in Kristiania on the Stjerne line. Made his way to Great Britain, arriving probably at Hull. Departed from Liverpool on the ship "Baltic" and arrived in New York's port on June 14, 1884. Did I get this right? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 02:30:25
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Originally posted by vivi
Hi
I don't find Carl Hammer in the book.
Wonder why he used Hammer?
Interesting question. Adoption of the name appears to have taken place between when Karl left and when he married in 1887. But the family members must have stayed in touch since they all are Hammer.
At his death, the younger brother Zacharias is living at Reitan and is called Hammer in 1892:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/267/pg00000001597253 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 02:54:42
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Can you tell me where they are living in 1900? I can't figure out the location from the link you provided
Living in Vemundvik, Nord-Trøndelag
Vemundvik is a village in Namsos municipality in Trøndelag county, Norway
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As I review the above, wondering if I am correct in the following:
Karl Lorents. (Hammer) left Namsos on May 14, 1884. He went to Trondheim. He got on a ship in Kristiania on the Stjerne line. Made his way to Great Britain, arriving probably at Hull. Departed from Liverpool on the ship "Baltic" and arrived in New York's port on June 14, 1884. Did I get this right?
Basically that is about it. |
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MDakin
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 05:16:30
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The use of the last name, Hammer, has been perplexing to me.
I have not found any member of this family actually living on a farm named Hammer. And there were several in the Beitstad area. Yet, eventually, they all adopted it as their surname.
Some have suggested that early on, the family may have lived on a section of a farm that was called Hammer but that the main farm had a different name.
I have not found any evidence to support this notion. But I am not as seasoned a researcher as all of you, so could have missed a clue or two.
Anyone have an idea about this?
And once again, know how grateful I am to all of you on this thread for your comments and help. You have been invaluable to helping me understand things. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 07:19:19
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An obit for Charles at FAG says that he is survived by a brother & a sister in US and a brother and a sister in Norway:
Chas. E. Hammer, Local Contractor, Dies
Sunday night when Mrs. Charles E. Hammer and son, Carl Hammer, who had been visiting friends in the country, returned to their home on Folsom street, they found Mr. Hammer dead in their garage. Death had apparently resulted from a heart attachk while he was engaged in working on his car. He was sitting on the running board when his lifeless body was discovered about 9:30 o'clock. A physician who was called pronounced death due to natural causes. Later the body was removed to Sticklin's Mortuary.
Mr. Hammer, who was 67 years old, had resided in Chehalis the past five years, coming here from Butte, Mont., where he had previously been engaged in an extenssive way in the mining game. Since residing at Chehalis he had been engaged as a state highway contractor and had been interested in several large jobs for the state.
Mr. Hammer is survived by his widow, Mrs. Elvina Hammer, and son, Carl Hammer, and a brother, Bert Hammer of Chehalis; three daughters, Mrs. Jennie Cannon and Mrs. Carl Franson of Butte and Mrs. W. C. Pierce of Great Falls, Mont.; a sister, Mrs. Tilda Swanson of San Francisco; a brother and a sister in Norway; and six grandchildren.
Source: The Chehalis Bee-Nugget, Friday, 12 Dec 1930
Was Charles a "wobbly?"
#12 leaving the parish Namsos
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Nord-Trøndelag, 768/L0572: Parish register (official) no. 768A07, 1874-1886, p. 470
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070423650025
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MDakin
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 15:14:08
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Oh my, I've never seen his obituary. Thank you soooo much for sharing it.
Charles could have been a wobbly. He was almost arrested in Butte around 1917 during the height of the labor tensions there. He had been at a meeting at Finlandia Hall in downtown Butte and lived at the same time across the street from Scandia Hall, home of the Scandinavian Brotherhood where meetings were held. But I don't have firm evidence of his being a member of the IWW. At least, not yet. |
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