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RonThack
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 26/09/2019 : 18:39:42
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Hallo. I have been seeking the transatlantic immigration of my GGGrandmother and daughters for a long time. I know that they left Vadso, Finnmark, Norway in late October 1889, bound for Trondheim. I have found their immigration record from Trondheim, as below:
30/10 1889 Allan Line : SS Domino Destination Fisher’s Landing Minnesota America No. 3864 Nicoline J.(ohanna) Olsen 34 Vadso 3865 Hannah (Mathilda) 4 “” 3866 Jenny (Christine) 1 “”
The SS Domino was their Wilson Line feeder ship out of Trondheim on 1889-10-30; thereafter it sailed to Christiansund - Aalesund – Hull, England. I presume a train to Liverpool, but could have easily been Glasgow or London.
I cannot find their transatlantic record. I searched corresponding ships for the SS DOMINO , then searched the manifests for the Line’s SS Siberian (1889-11-08); SS Carthaginian (1889-11-11) for the month of November, even SS Circassian in December (1889-12-09) to no avail.
These Olsens did reside in Fisher’s Landing (1895 census) and Crookston (1900 census), Minnesota, so I know they made it. Husband Johan Olsen sailed from Trondheim on 21 August 1888 aboard the SS Hero of the BEAVER line, with the same declared destination. Just cannot track them down.
Any help/assistance would be greatly appreciated Thank you Ron
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2019 : 21:37:03
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Yes finding the records for the voyage to America is one of the more difficult tasks. The transcriptions can at times vary a lot from the real names. Sometimes one can look for and find others who travelled at the same time as the person of interest. Here is a link to the Digitalarkivet record for the sailing. Using that one can find other passengers who may if one is lucky travelled the same path and are easier to find.
Link
Original record
3864
In this list below Nicoline is a Brita M Mikkola age 19, number 3869. Not on the Allan line, but likely arriving in November of 1889.
Here for the record is likely her arrival record. No sign of your Nicoline that I could see on the same page. But we should probably look for Nicoline and chidren arriving in November or early December of 1889.
Brita M Mikkola in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 Name: Brita M Mikkola Arrival Date: 21 Nov 1889 Birth Date: abt 1870 Age: 19 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish Place of Origin: Sweden Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Destination: United States of America Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Wisconsin |
Edited by - AntonH on 26/09/2019 23:12:05 |
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RonThack
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 26/09/2019 : 23:06:56
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Hi Lyndal. Thanks for your assistance.
I had never thought to try and track others on the same feeder voyage or final destination. Likewise, even though the police record for Nicoline and girls stated ALLAN line, I didn't think that I should look at other lines around the same time.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2019 : 23:16:03
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The one I would love to find is Bereth Lars. Østby and her child Ragnhild who left at the same time and on the Allan Line. They however are proving about as difficult to find as your Nicoline.
But I did find the arrival of passenger 3859
Hendrick Kivela in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 Name: Hendrick Kivela Arrival Date: 16 Nov 1889 Birth Date: abt 1844 Age: 45 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian Place of Origin: Norway Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Destination: New York Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: City of Berlin
But not anyone you are looking for. |
Edited by - AntonH on 27/09/2019 02:03:11 |
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RonThack
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 27/09/2019 : 02:03:25
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I have placed your people in my shoebox, lest I come across them in my continued search.
many thanks
Ron |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 28/09/2019 : 07:34:30
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John Olson is listed as an alien in the 1900 census, but if he ever did attempt to become a citizen the first papers might contain information about his port of entry and date in US.
This appears to be John in 1905 Minnesota state census: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SP35-SVV |
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RonThack
Starting member
Canada
5 Posts |
Posted - 28/09/2019 : 20:22:04
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Thank you for this, I hadn't seen the 1905 census for the family; nor where he is listed as alien. Pursuant to same, I have searched the naturalization records, but nothing... yet. Many thanks for the info/direction
regards Ron, on left 'left coast' of Canada |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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RonThack
Starting member
Canada
5 Posts |
Posted - 29/09/2019 : 05:48:07
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Thank you again for your efforts. Yes, this is my Johan (John) Olsen. He is single because wife Nicoline Johanna died in Aug 1906 . Incidentally, this is also the year in which their residence at 320 Hurlbut is either torn down and /or rebuilt. Johan sells the family home after his wife's death and elects to lodge with the new owner , Mr. Hemingson. Johan immigrates to Canada by 1914 to join his two surviving daughters.
many thanks Ron |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 29/09/2019 : 19:59:56
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Okay, if the 1910 John is yours then he got naturalized between 1900 and 1910 if both census notations are correct. Most likely in Polk county, too. |
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