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mattbutenhoff
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 Posted - 18/11/2019 : 00:57:53
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Concerning question on Minnesota ole jensen.
Johnny O is my grandfather. My mother is still alive and she remembers Alexander O or AO. 100%
Many trees have Ole buried in Minneapolis 1908. Once you see the head stone I knew it was wrong especially with the 1880 census.
Someone from the otter tail historical society is helping me find a death certificate or grave for Ole in 1879. No luck so far.
Could he have abandoned his family?
They did later on use the name Johnson.
Big connection to Sonmore family.
On Jonette, Yes, that is the one I found, but could not connect to Liverpool ship.
I was assuming New York.
But the Quebec trip would make sense also.
Just had a thought.
Ole is in hurdals area because of Jonette.
Jonette is in Eidsvold because it is her family home?
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Edited by - mattbutenhoff on 18/11/2019 02:31:49 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 01:33:36
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In the record from Norway Heritage where she is listed as leaving, she is given the last name Andreasdatter, but in other records she is listed as Andersdatter. Same name.
Jonette Andersd Tærud as a witness.
Link
One problem we are going to have is that the many of the parish records for Eidsvoll were destroyed by fire. |
Edited by - AntonH on 18/11/2019 01:40:51 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 01:48:25
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I think you need to come to grips with the fact that the Ole Jensen of Nøterø might not be your Ole Jensen. It might be that the Ole Jensen found by Jackie in Hurdal and the Jonette Andersdatter (Andreasdatter) from Eidsvoll might be your two best candidate. If so it is likely in my opinion that they married in America.
Both Hurdal parish and Eidsvoll parish are in Akershus County and are essentially side by side. |
Edited by - AntonH on 18/11/2019 01:49:13 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 02:14:20
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Originally posted by lyndal40
This record from Ancestry.com would indicate that Jonette has a father named Anders.
Johnny Jenson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969Name: Johnny Jenson
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1871
Baptism Date: 19 May 1871
Baptism Place: Elbow Lake, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Jenson
Mother: Johnette Anders
Church Name: Pelican Lake Lutheran
Church Location: Ashby, Minnesota
Marie Jenson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Marie Jenson
Record Type: Confirmation
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1870
Birth Place: Minnesota, USA
Confirmation Date: 13 Apr 1884
Father: Ole Jenson
Mother: Jonethe Anderson
Church Name: Trefoldighet Lutheran
Church Location: Ottertail County, Minnesota
As you are looking at the records in the ELCA at Ancestry you are sometimes allowed to wander into the other pastoral acts from a church. They follow an order similar to Norwegian parish registers, baptisms first, confirmations, then marriages and funerals. You might try to see if Ole's and Jonette's marriage is in there and also if Ole's funeral is in there without using the search engine, but just going page by page.
I've lined out the Jonette from Hurdal's information in my earlier. Lacking expressed information, I was only following the new tack to Hurdal.
Who are the faddernes for the known baptisms? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 02:33:29
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Here are a few of the ELCA baptism record with screen shots of the faddernes.
Klara Jensen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Klara Jensen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 3 Jun 1877
Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1877
Baptism Place: Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Jensen
Mother: Johnette Jensen
Church Name: Trefoldighed Lutheran
Church Location: Battle Lake, Minnesota
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 02:38:14
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Johnny Jenson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Johnny Jenson
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1871
Baptism Date: 19 May 1871
Baptism Place: Elbow Lake, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Jenson
Mother: Johnette Anders
Church Name: Pelican Lake Lutheran
Church Location: Ashby, Minnesota
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 02:42:19
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Karl Melvin Jensen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Karl Melvin Jensen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 30 Jan 1874
Baptism Date: 29 Mar 1874
Baptism Place: Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Jensen
Mother: Robinette Jensen
Church Name: Rock Prairie Lutheran
Church Location: Wendell, Minnesota
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 02:46:56
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Alexander Jensen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Alexander Jensen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 25 Sep 1875
Baptism Date: 7 Nov 1875
Baptism Place: Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Jensen
Mother: Johnette Zensen
Church Name: Rock Prairie Lutheran
Church Location: Wendell, Minnesota
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 02:51:52
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Originally posted by lyndal40
I think you need to come to grips with the fact that the Ole Jensen of Nøterø might not be your Ole Jensen. It might be that the Ole Jensen found by Jackie in Hurdal and the Jonette Andersdatter (Andreasdatter) from Eidsvoll might be your two best candidate. If so it is likely in my opinion that they married in America.
Both Hurdal parish and Eidsvoll parish are in Akershus County and are essentially side by side.
I think Jackie is right. There was one family tree that put them in that area. And I believe it was also the one that had ole death correct.
Moving forward I guess start new with Jonette and ole parents. |
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 02:54:40
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Karl Melvin Jensen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Karl Melvin Jensen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 30 Jan 1874
Baptism Date: 29 Mar 1874
Baptism Place: Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Jensen
Mother: Robinette Jensen
I just got off the phone with my mother.
Carl Melvin had a club foot and owned a shoe store.
Church Name: Rock Prairie Lutheran
Church Location: Wendell, Minnesota
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 03:06:09
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Thanks everyone for unscrambling my mess.
Now I need to go back a clean up my tree.
Looking at the Oder manifest, I see what may be a traveling companion with Jonette.
Matea Iversen
Age: 29
Wouldn’t be nice if they both made it to Minnesota so they could stay in touch.
A new trail to follow.
Many thanks
Ps what are the odds: could it be?
Name
Marthe Iverson
Birth
Abt 1838 Norway
Residence
1880 Eidsvold, Lyon, Minnesota, USA |
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Edited by - mattbutenhoff on 18/11/2019 03:40:32 |
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 03:43:51
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Originally posted by mattbutenhoff
Thanks everyone for unscrambling my mess.
Now I need to go back a clean up my tree.
Looking at the Oder manifest, I see what may be a traveling companion with Jonette.
Matea Iversen
Age: 29
Wouldn’t be nice if they both made it to Minnesota so they could stay in touch.
A new trail to follow.
Many thanks
Ps what are the odds: could it be?
Name
Marthe Iverson
Birth
Abt 1838 Norway
Residence
1880 Eidsvold, Lyon, Minnesota, USA
100 miles south from elbow lake.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 03:53:30
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Not likley the same, that is her married name
View 1880 United States Federal Census
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Name: Marthe Iverson
Age: 42
Birth Date: Abt 1838
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Eidsvold, Lyon, Minnesota, USA
Dwelling Number: 87
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name: Ole Iverson
She is a Martha Jensdatter
Name: Martha Jenson
Gender: Female
Spouse: Ole Iverson
Child: Edward Melvin Iverson |
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 14:47:26
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Iversen was her name on the ship manifest
Maybe marthe was married in Norway? She was 29 when traveling.
I’ve checked NY and Quebec. Just like Jonette, no records.
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 18/11/2019 : 17:35:55
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Iversen was her name on the ship manifest
Maybe marthe was married in Norway? She was 29 when traveling.
Ole ‘s sister??
I’ve checked NY and Quebec. Just like Jonette, no records.
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Edited by - mattbutenhoff on 18/11/2019 21:29:32 |
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Ole Jensen Notteroy
