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AntonH
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Posted - 18/11/2019 :  23:10:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jonette Andreasdatter arrived into New York on September 7, 1868 on the ship named Colorado. Matea Iversen is also on the same ship.

They are passengers number 451 and 452.

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It took a little guessing to figure out what the transcriber called her.

Jennet Anderson
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Jennet Anderson
Arrival Date: 7 Sep 1868
Birth Date: abt 1843
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Colorado
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/11/2019 :  23:28:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Here are a few of the ELCA baptism record with screen shots of the faddernes.

Klara Jensen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Klara Jensen
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 3 Jun 1877
Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1877
Baptism Place: Otter Tail, Minnesota, USA
Father: Ole Jensen
Mother: Johnette Jensen
Church Name: Trefoldighed Lutheran
Church Location: Battle Lake, Minnesota

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The names look clearly to be Jenson but there is this family headed by a Jens Olson which has both a Ludwig and an Otto Johnson living with Jens in Otter Tail County, Minnesota in 1875:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKNG-J7Z
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/11/2019 :  23:32:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a 24 Ole Jensen in the house with a Ludwig and an Otto Jensens living in Eidsvold in 1865:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038024003933

Old man Jens Olsen Braaten leaving in 1868:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000001942
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/11/2019 :  23:38:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And a Otto Jensen leaving from Eidsvoll in 1868

Otto Jensen
Passenger on Bark Argonaut in 1868. Eidsvold Værket

And Ludvig

Name: Ludvig Jensen
Age: 16
Remarks: Eidsvold Værket
Passenger on: Bark Argonaut 1868, from Christiania Apr. 7 to Quebec May 15
Source: Christiania Politikammer Emigrant protokoll 1 - Transcribed by Trond Austheim - 2008
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/11/2019 :  23:44:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the arrival of the family into Canada. Transcribed with the wrong last name, but some Ancestry user has already corrected the names of the family

Ludvig Larsd
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Ludvig Larsd
[Ludvig Jensen ]
Gender: Male
Arrival Date: May 1868
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Argonaut

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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/11/2019 :  23:44:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jens Olsen was faddernes to one of the children. Ludwig Johnson was faddernes to one of the children. Does it look like Ole Jenson left with them?

If all goes well and this article mentions the same Jens Olson, it says that he lived here (Otter Tail county) for some time and now lives in Lincoln, Nebraska:
https://newspapers.mnhs.org/jsp/viewer.jsp?doc_id=mnhi0031%2F1DFIOB59%2F90071601&query1=&recoffset=0&collection_filter=All&collection_name=7e8bc5b0-560c-4920-8657-5a2e78c7c54d&sort_col=Publication%20Date&cnt=1&CurSearchNum=3&recOffset=0

Fergus Falls ugeblad. Pub. Date July 16, 1890
Edited by - jkmarler on 18/11/2019 23:51:18
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/11/2019 :  00:01:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do not see Ole Jensen in either the arrival list or this list from Norway Heritage.

A long list all numbered 38

#38

Edited by - AntonH on 19/11/2019 00:52:37
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/11/2019 :  02:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well there is a Family Tree on Ancestry.com with the family. The Tree has Jonette as the wife of Ole Jensen but does not have any further information on her history. However I think that the correct Jonette is the one living on the Tærud farm in Eidsvoll in the 1865 Census with mother Inger Hermandsdatter from Eidsvoll.

Jens Olsen Braten
BIRTH 1815 • Eidsvoll, Norway
DEATH 19 MAY 1885 • Battle Lake, Mn

Ingeborg Marie Larsdotter Aalborg
BIRTH 1817 • Eidsvoll, Norway
DEATH 12 JUN 1885 • Battle Lake, Mn

First child was

Ole Jensen
BIRTH 1847 • Eidsvol, Norway
DEATH 15 FEB 1879 • Otter Tail County, Mn

Married Jonette

I think that Matt has an Ancestry.com subscription so this is for him.

Ancestry Tree

I think that the discussions of people from Notteroy and Hurdal are all likely not applicable to this thread. All of the family come from Eidsvoll and probably lived there a long time.
Edited by - AntonH on 19/11/2019 03:12:22
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/11/2019 :  03:57:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What proofs are offered for the death dates for Jens Olsen and his wife in the database?

It might be of interest if Jens and Ingeborg each left an estate that had to be settled on the descendants. Even if Ole is gone, often in America grandchildren inherit their missing parents share.

For instance, there was Jens Olson who proved up an original homestead in Ottertail County in 1876 of a 156.17 acres:
MN 5th PM 132N - 040W NE¼NW¼ 19 Otter Tail
MN 5th PM 132N - 040W Lot/Trct 1 19 Otter Tail
MN 5th PM 132N - 040W Lot/Trct 2 19 Otter Tail
MN 5th PM 132N - 040W Lot/Trct 3 19 Otter Tail
MN 5th PM 132N - 040W Lot/Trct 4 18 Otter Tail

If it is the same Jens Olson as who dies in 1885 and who still possessed it in 1885, there would be land which would need to be divided amongst survivors or sold to satisfy survivor's claims.
Edited by - jkmarler on 19/11/2019 06:24:49
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/11/2019 :  16:38:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the Eidsvoll records of funerals from 1866-1871, there is only one Ole Jensen, a 70 year old husman who died in 1868.

It appears that there are no utflyttedes online for the same time period in Eidsvoll. If the family in Ottertail county is the correct one, it appears that Ole Jensen didn't travel with them in 1868. It is still possible that he travelled to America and settled with his family in the same place, however. Perhaps he left before and acted as a "scout" for the rest, or maybe he came later after finishing up obligations in Eidsvoll or elsewhere.

Playing a hunch that Ole Jensen travelled on the Argonaut on one of the other voyages, did find him. I hope this address works but if not see below He is number 206:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-1865-1922/Pages/image.aspx?Image=e003526623&URLjpg=http%3a%2f%2fcentral.bac-lac.gc.ca%2f.item%2f%3fid%3de003526623%26op%3dimg%26app%3dpassengerlist&Ecopy=e003526623

Ship: ARGONAUT
Port of Departure: Christiania, Norway
Date of Departure: 1867-04-08
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Que.
Date of Arrival: 1867
Year: 1867
Microfilm Reel Number:
C-4521
Remarks: List Number: 11
Reference: RG 76
Item Number: 247

page 7 entry 206
Edited by - jkmarler on 19/11/2019 17:16:16
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/11/2019 :  17:23:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What a great find Jackie. It troubled me more than a little that we had not found Ole on the same ship as his parents and siblings.Your link worked just fine when I tried it. Since I think Matt has a Ancestry.com account, I will post the Ancestry.com transcribed version of the arrival. Geez he even used the Braaten farm name.

Ole Jensen Broaten
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Ole Jensen Broaten
Arrival Date: May 1867
Arrival Port: Canada
Vessel: Argonaut

Also the only source for information on the Jens Olsen Braten Family Tree found on Ancestry.com is this one.

World Family Tree Vol. 2, Ed. 1

Which I think is an old Family Tree Maker genealogy program sold by Ancestry. Not to my thinking a real source.
Edited by - AntonH on 19/11/2019 17:37:03
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/11/2019 :  17:39:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, family trees quoting other family trees, not necessarily a good thing.
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 19/11/2019 :  22:56:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whew, that’s a lot to digest.
So moving forward scratch all Liverpool ships. Family came via Quebec with Ole a year ahead.
I should get a dna match with Otto and ludvig clans.

Thanks ever so much.
I enjoyed reading the back and forth.
Matty B
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/11/2019 :  23:11:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well your Jonette Andreasdatter did come from Noway to Liverpool to New York. But the husbands ie Ole Jensen side of the family went through Canada.
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mattbutenhoff
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Posted - 20/11/2019 :  00:07:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Well your Jonette Andreasdatter did come from Noway to Liverpool to New York. But the husbands ie Ole Jensen side of the family went through Canada.


Yes, thanks again
Matty B
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