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SummerJackson
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Posted - 20/03/2021 :  18:49:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am new to this forum so this may not be being asked in the right spot - forgive me. I am trying to write up a history on my great grandfather. He immigrated to the US in 1887. I want to find out what his life in Norway may have been like. I am interested to know what type of farming they would have done. His name was Carl Ludvig Anderson (many different spellings) and was born in Bredtvedt, Vestre Aker, Oslo, Norway in 1853. Can anyone point me to a good source to find out more about the typical life at this place and time?

summer Jackson

Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 20/03/2021 :  19:13:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the 1865 census Carl and his family live in building of at least 35 flats (apartments) in Oslo on Eugens Gade (street). His father works as a Malermester (a master painter). There is no farming involved.
https://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0301&kenr=1257&bnr=1183&lnr=000
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 20/03/2021 :  20:56:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins

In the 1865 census Carl and his family live in building of at least 35 flats (apartments) in Oslo on Eugens Gade.
How do you know this is the correct Carl Ludvig?
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/03/2021 :  22:09:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There might be some others worth considering. Here is a Carl Ludvig born 14 Feb 1853. Father is Adreas Andersen and mother is Elen Maria Hansdatter.

Nr. 79

Bredtvedt

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060301050690


Edited by - AntonH on 28/03/2021 03:07:22
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 20/03/2021 :  22:17:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carl Ludvig Andreasen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Carl Ludvig Andreasen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 feb 1853
Baptism Date: 8 mai 1853 (8 May 1853)
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Andreas Andersen
Mother: Elen Marie Hansdatter
FHL Film Number: 125844
Reference ID: Bk 26 Pg 18

Probably the same guy even tho is birth day is off by 2.

Carl Ludvig Andersen
in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Carl Ludvig Andersen
Gender: M (Male)
Birth Date: 16 Feb 1853
Birth Place: Oslo, Oslo kommune, Oslo fylke, Norway
Death Date: 11 Sep 1945
Death Place: Sandy, Salt Lake County, Utah, United States of America
Cemetery: Sandy City Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Sandy, Salt Lake County, Utah, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
Spouse:
Maren Johanna Andersen
Children:
Yalmer Martin Anderson
Fredrick A Anderson
Henry Anderson
William Richard Anderson

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000005243362


Edited by - AntonH on 20/03/2021 22:55:33
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 20/03/2021 :  23:01:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1865
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 20/03/2021 :  23:23:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the marriage of the parents.

Andreas Andersen Steen
in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938
Name: Andreas Andersen Steen
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: ekteskap (Marriage)
Birth Date: abt 1811
Birth Place: Garpestad Steen
Marriage Date: 30 jan 1835
Marriage Place: Aker, Akershus, Norge (Norway)
Marriage Municipality: Aker
Residence Place: Bredelien
Entry Number: 16
Father: Andreas Thorsen
Spouse: Ellen Marid Hansdtr Enger Bredelid ( V. 29 Nossum 1634 )

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000009014576

Nr. 2

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061108030365

A little odd that Ellen Hansdatter has a father named Torkild?

Edited by - AntonH on 20/03/2021 23:47:08
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 21/03/2021 :  00:03:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

A little odd that Ellen Hansdatter has a father named Torkild?

Thron Andersen Steen and Torkild Andersen Steen might be bestmen and/or brothers of the groom.
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/03/2021 :  00:39:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Thron Andersen Steen and Torkild Andersen Steen might be bestmen and/or brothers of the groom.


Maybe, the transcription gives them as fathers but the original record is not that clear.

That makes this 1801 Census Record for Steen interesting. Anders Thronsen and Maria Thorkelsdatter. A young son named Thorchiel Andersen.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058216003577



Edited by - AntonH on 21/03/2021 00:45:36
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 21/03/2021 :  00:52:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Her father is Hans Jacobsen and he lives with the family in 1865.
Grooms father is Andreas Thorsen.

Edited by - jwiborg on 21/03/2021 00:53:38
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/03/2021 :  00:55:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is an Anders baptized June 24, 1810. Father is Anders Tronsen and the mother is Maria Torkilsdatter Steen.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060208040802
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AntonH
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Posted - 21/03/2021 :  01:00:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Her father is Hans Jacobsen and he lives with the family in 1865.
Grooms father is Andreas Thorsen


So the transcription I posted above, which is listed as Marriage and is in 1834 must have been the engagement. And wha you posted is the marriage.

Hans Jacobsen born about 1787 on Bredvedt in the 1801 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058216003634

Edited by - AntonH on 21/03/2021 01:23:51
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 21/03/2021 :  16:44:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Summer Jackson; there are several "Carl Ludvig Anderson" in the Oslo area who could potentially be your great grandfather. What sources do you have to connect him to Bredtvedt? Any US sources that gives his d.o.b., name of the parents, farmname, date of immigration...?
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SummerJackson
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Posted - 27/03/2021 :  17:39:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Carl Ludvig Anderson was born 14 Feb 1853 according to my records. I have seen him on the 1865 cencus living at farm Engers which I think is connected to farm Rodtvedt.

summer Jackson
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 27/03/2021 :  17:49:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SummerJackson

My Carl Ludvig Anderson was born 14 Feb 1853 according to my records. I have seen him on the 1865 cencus living at farm Engers which I think is connected to farm Rodtvedt.

Any US records that gives i birthdate as 14 Feb 1853?
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SummerJackson
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Posted - 27/03/2021 :  17:50:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much to everybody who has responded. It is so difficult for me to find the Norwegian records.

summer Jackson
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