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AntonH
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Posted - 18/04/2021 :  21:11:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like these are the collections online

https://collections.carli.illinois.edu/digital/collection/npu_ansgar
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loyane
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Posted - 19/04/2021 :  00:09:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Jackie, lyndal40 and other listers!

I will start this message by saying BINGO!

I found the birth record at St. Ansgarius for the daughter:

* Othilda Hanna WILSON, born Sep. 13, 1870: https://collections.carli.illinois.edu/digital/collection/npu_ansgar/id/758/rec/4

And then I discovered this ancestry family tree: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/114866531/person/232013932014/facts?_phsrc=Nzx25196&_phstart=successSource

The owner of the tree has gotten Othilda Hanna mixed up with a different girl, but several facts prove the connection to «our» Wilson family!

The 1910 census from Knox Co., NE (where also Ingrid «Eva» Wilson's oldest sister Ingeborg «Emma» Schuster lived!!) shows her father born in Sweden and mother born in Norway: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7884/images/31111_4330837-00885?usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&pId=161141922

The birth record of a daughter in 1903 shows mother's name as Tillie Hannah Welson Iverson: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=FSCookILBirth&indiv=try&h=721761

So, I must say this has been a wonderful experience!!

Obviously some «blanks» still remain, including:

* Where were Tillie and Jonas Iverson in 1900?

* Has the tree owner identified the «right» husband of Tillie's, born in Ostre Aker: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/114866531/person/232013931580/facts

* But far more important: What happened to Ingrid «Eva» Wilson after 1880? Did she remarry?

* And can her Swedish husband Charles Wilson be identified?

Thanks again for wonderful assistance with this family! Just like the Mary Hill Masterson challenge I never thought I would be able to locate Ingrid «Eva» Wilson's family!

Very sincerely yours,

Lars E. Oyane

Edited by - loyane on 19/04/2021 00:10:23
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/04/2021 :  00:14:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are some records that might confirm the identity of the husband.

Jones Iverson
in the Cook County, Illinois, U.S., Marriages Index, 1871-1920
Name: Jones Iverson
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1871
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 11 Jan 1897
Marriage Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Spouse Name: Tillie H Wilson
Spouse Age: 26
Spouse Gender: Female
FHL Film Number: 1030271

Johnas Iverson
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Johnas Iverson
Birth Date: 7 May 1870
Birth Place: Oslo, Norway
Claim Date: 11 Mar 1941
SSN: 524017409
Notes: 16 Mar 1979: Name listed as JOHNAS IVERSON

Edited by - AntonH on 19/04/2021 00:17:55
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/04/2021 :  00:19:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jonas Iversen
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Jonas Iversen
Record Type: Confirmation
Confirmation Date: 25 May 1884
Father: Peder Iversen
Mother: Christine Iversen
Church Name: Trinity Lutheran Church
Church Location: Chicago, Illinois

Confirmation


Jonas
in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938
Name: Jonas
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: dåp (Baptism)
Birth Date: 7 mai 1870 (7 May 1870)
Baptism Date: 11 sep 1870
Baptism Place: Østre Aker, Akershus, Norge (Norway)
Baptism Municipality: Aker
Entry Number: 128
Father: Peder Iversen
Mother: Christine Andersen

Bap

Nr. 128

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060928070521

1875 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052040012630

Jonas Iverson
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Jonas Iverson
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 11 sep 1870
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Peder Iverson
Mother: Christine Anderson
FHL Film Number: 1282643
Reference ID: P22

Jonas


Edited by - AntonH on 19/04/2021 01:23:43
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/04/2021 :  02:16:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are in South Dakota in 1915:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68K9-DL4?i=2583&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMMHF-CNB

Jonas came to US as a ten year old according to this:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-68K9-6NN?i=2399&cc=1476041

Edited by - jkmarler on 19/04/2021 02:52:40
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/04/2021 :  02:54:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loyane

Dear Jackie, lyndal40 and other listers!

I will start this message by saying BINGO!

I found the birth record at St. Ansgarius for the daughter:

* Othilda Hanna WILSON, born Sep. 13, 1870: https://collections.carli.illinois.edu/digital/collection/npu_ansgar/id/758/rec/4

And then I discovered this ancestry family tree: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/114866531/person/232013932014/facts?_phsrc=Nzx25196&_phstart=successSource

The owner of the tree has gotten Othilda Hanna mixed up with a different girl, but several facts prove the connection to «our» Wilson family!

The 1910 census from Knox Co., NE (where also Ingrid «Eva» Wilson's oldest sister Ingeborg «Emma» Schuster lived!!) shows her father born in Sweden and mother born in Norway: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7884/images/31111_4330837-00885?usePUB=true&usePUBJs=true&pId=161141922

The birth record of a daughter in 1903 shows mother's name as Tillie Hannah Welson Iverson: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=FSCookILBirth&indiv=try&h=721761

So, I must say this has been a wonderful experience!!

Obviously some «blanks» still remain, including:

* Where were Tillie and Jonas Iverson in 1900?

* Has the tree owner identified the «right» husband of Tillie's, born in Ostre Aker: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/114866531/person/232013931580/facts

* But far more important: What happened to Ingrid «Eva» Wilson after 1880? Did she remarry?

* And can her Swedish husband Charles Wilson be identified?

Thanks again for wonderful assistance with this family! Just like the Mary Hill Masterson challenge I never thought I would be able to locate Ingrid «Eva» Wilson's family!

Very sincerely yours,




There are several candidate Charles Wilson in the church registers if you want to let your fingers do the walking, particularly 1849-1852 era.

The Illinois State Secretary of State digital archive has pre 1916 deaths for Illinois but limited to just Cook county there are an enormous number of Wilson. Age is off but here is an Ingrid Wilson:
WILSON, INGRID 1898-03-30 CHICAGO 65 YR U 00020587 COOK

Edited by - jkmarler on 19/04/2021 03:01:02
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/04/2021 :  02:58:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mother Kirstine and five children including Jonas leaving Norway 1881.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000955876
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/04/2021 :  03:34:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This from the Denver Post Sunday 30 May 1937 page 7 col 5:
"Woman Disappears And Death Is Feared
Denver Police instituted a search for Mrs. Tillie Iverson, 67 who disappeared from her home at 229 Bannock street Saturday morning after writing a note to her husband Edward H Iverson, in which she intimated that she might attempt to take her life. Iverson said his wife has been despondent because of ill health. 'Dear Ed, Please bury me in my new dress.' the note stated Iverson told Police Sergt. E.M. Hunt."

Obviously it resolved since she was with the family in the 1940 census. And interesting that her son Ed was confused with her husband.

FAG:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121989293/tillie-h-iverson

Edited by - jkmarler on 19/04/2021 03:39:44
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loyane
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Germany
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Posted - 19/04/2021 :  23:07:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear lyndal40, Jackie and other Listers!

Thank you very much for your latest comment on this family!

I have spent some time today reviewing my notes on Ingrid «Eva» Wilson and her family. I have even read line-by-line the St. Ansgarius baptismal and burial records for the time up until 1877, but there is no mention of Charles or Ingrid «Eva» or any other children than what i already found. Therefore I am very uncertain whether the Charles F. Iverson who died in that accident in 1874 can be the «right» Charles... Do you think that the inquest of the accident might have additional details about his family??

It is also «intreaguing» to me that we cannot find Charles Wilson in the 1870 Chicago census! There are several Charles Wilsons, but none with a «matching» wife! And now we also know for sure he was a SWEDE since Tillie's father is given with birth place Sweden in the 1910, the 1920 and the 1930 censues!

Also very «intreaguing» is the question about Ingrid «Eva»' destiny after 1882. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if she remarried, and she may even have had more children!?

At any rate, I now have, after contacting the Fairmount cemetery in Denver, CO, a complete set of information about Tillie (in Norwegian):

Othilda Hanna, kjend som Tillie Wilson, f. i Chicago, Ill. 13.9.1870, d. i Denver, Colo. 15.1.1941. Ho gifte seg i Chicago, Ill. 11.1.1897 med Jonas Pederson frå Austre Aker, i Amerika kjend som Johnas Iverson. Han var son av snikkar Peder Iversen på Kampen i Austre Aker, opphavleg frå Øygarden under Øy i Vågå, og kona Kirstina Andersdotter frå Burud i Hole og f. i Austre Aker 7.5.1870, men utvandra til Amerika med mor si i 1881. Han d. i Denver, Colo. 8.4.1956. Etter nokre år i Chicago, Cook Co., Ill. flytte Tillie og Johnas kring 1907 til ein farm i Spade precinct, Knox Co., Neb. Kring 1911 flytte dei til Portland, Multnomah Co., Ore., men alt i 1914 flytte dei attende til Sioux Falls, Minnehaha Co., S.D. der Johnas arbeidde som heisbyggjar («elevator constructor»). På 1920-talet flytte dei so til Denver, Colo. der dei vart buande levetidi ut. Dei fekk tre born i lag.

Thanks again for your wonderful assistance tracing this family!

Very sincerely yours,

Lars E. Oyane
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/04/2021 :  20:47:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a single 24 year old Swede named Charles Wilson occupied as a sailor boarding at Charles Hansen's establishment 161 ____ on 6 June 1870:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M67J-SBZ

A single 29 year old Swede Charles Wilson occupied as a machinist in 1870:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M67K-5VX

A 32years old probably married Swed Charles Wilson occupied as a painter )probable wife named Margret) 23 June 1870:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M676-6SQ
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/04/2021 :  22:28:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are over 300 Charles Wilson mentions in the Chicago newspaper base in Genealogy Bank from 1869-1880. Only one other death that I saw, other than the fellow on the roof, was that of a sailor. It was from the Chicago Daily Tribune Tuesday 1 Dec 1877 page 7:

"There's no longer any doubt that the missing schr Atlanta has been lost with all on board. It is not known for certain that she passed Detroit, and therefore it cannot be stated on which lake she went down. The names of the lost, as far as can be learned, are as follows: first mate Mr. Griffen of Youngstown N.Y.; second mate Charles Wilson, son of Captain Gordon Wilson of Chicago; cook Mrs O'Neil of Vermillion O. The names of the five seamen on board cannot be learned. All hailed from Oswego."

There are numerous mentions of Charles Wilsons engagements in illegal acts including larceny, robbery, check forgery, assault with intent to do bodily injury with a deadly weapon, sneak thief, shooting, exposing self, pickpocketing, indecent conduct and adultery,

The occupations mentioned in connection with various Charles Wilsons covered the gamut: painter, sailor, telegraph operator, waiter, restaurateur, railroad engineer.

One mention was made of a Charles Wilson as a Swede. He had travelled back to Sweden. He left $900-$1,000 of cash and property in the care of another Swede named Clara Edwards who was a fortune teller who lived at No 77 West Kinzie. She was arrested when he returned from Sweden and wanted his cash and property back and she didn't have it. The articles dated to Feb 1879 in at least two papers outlining her arrest and working through the judicial system. The earliest articles called this Charles Wilson a Norwegian but quickly he was identified as a Swede.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/04/2021 :  00:04:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jonas Iverson is in the 1900 city directory of Chicago living at 709 Grande Avenue
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loyane
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Posted - 21/04/2021 :  14:48:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here is the database listing of the inquest for Charles:
WILSON, CHARLES Vol 1 page 296 1/29/1874 1/29/1874

Copies of the inquest proceedings can be ordered.
https://www.ilsos.gov/isairad/cookInquest.do


Dear Jackie and other Listers!

It appears to be a «tough task» to figure out who Charles WILSON really was. It MAY very well be the guy who suffered this accident in Chicago, IL in 1874, so maybe it would be worthwhile checking out theinquest, hoping there might be a mention of his wife and children?

However, I am unable to open the inquest file. I only get «error»...,

The only ything that kind of «disturbs» me with this Charles Wilson, is this note in the newspaper:

«WILSON--In this city Jan 29 Charles F Wilson, aged 26 years, 5 mos 24 days. Funeral from his residence 195 Sebor St Sunday Feb 1 at 11 o'clock sharp, by cars to Rosehill. Norfolk Va papers please copy.»

Why this reference to Norfolk, VA?

Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter!

Lars E. Oyane
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/04/2021 :  15:55:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you request the inquest file? As far as I know the files are not mounted online, but have to be requested....

Notices like the Norfolk reference, means that relatives or people who might be interested in this person are at Norfolk.

Wilson is a very common name, but limiting to those born in Sweden there is one there in 1880 census named Harry:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC5P-ZXS

And in 1870 one named Andrew:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4LK-TH3

The fellow who died in 1874 is probably this man:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:DYXC-YTMM

Charles Wilson marrying in 1850:
https://collections.carli.illinois.edu/digital/collection/npu_ansgar/id/852/rec/3

Edited by - jkmarler on 22/04/2021 00:02:08
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