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Lund
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 Posted - 26/05/2021 : 02:06:34
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| Wow this is truly incredible, thank you all so much! The handwriting is definitely hard for me to decipher but I will keep working on it. My great-great grandfather Gustav Albert left Norway to join his mother in North America as a child or young adult. So far as we know he never had contact with his father, so this has been a huge gift to his descendants. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/05/2021 : 03:26:37
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Originally posted by Lund
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Obit for Gustav Lundmann:
https://www.nb.no/items/9fb701fb4227457726099be5621c76ef?page=5&searchText=%22%20gustav%20lundmann%22
That is amazing, thank you so much! I notice there is no mention of my great-great grandpa Gustav Alfred. Do you know if that would be pretty standard for the times since the parents never married each other and both went on to have their own families?
Treatment varies by family. Usually, illegitimates are "gifts to the grandparents" which you might see by his living with his mother's folks in the 1891 census. |
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 26/05/2021 : 11:02:13
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Originally posted by AntonH
The marriage
Johanna Lundmann
in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938
Name: Johanna Lundmann
Marriage Age: 36
Record Type: ekteskap (Marriage)
Birth Date: abt 1831
Birth Place: Bo (I Romsdalen)
Marriage Date: 19 aug 1867
Marriage Place: Trondheim city, Sør-Trøndelag, Norge (Norway)
Marriage Municipality: Trondheim
Entry Number: 17
Father: John Pedersen Sandvik
Spouse: Jakob Opager
Nr. 17
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050610011053
I have tried to trace the mother Johanna's origin from this record. Bo i Romsdalen confused me at first, but I discovered that Bud parish in Romsdal is sometimes written Boe, so it may be this. At least there is a Sandvik farm there, with a toddler named Joen Pedersen in 1801.
And then there is a confirmation of 16 years old Johanna Johnsdtr Sandvig in Bud in 1844, with parents John Pedersen and Marie Knudsdtr (#18). Looking further back at Hustad sub-parish, one finds a matching baptism in 1829, with given date of birth 01/15/1829. Finally, she moved to Kristiansund in 1852 (top right), where she probably had a son Adolph two years later. |
Edited by - ToreL on 26/05/2021 19:02:29 |
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jkmarler
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Lund
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Posted - 28/05/2021 : 07:20:52
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Originally posted by ToreL
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Originally posted by AntonH
The marriage
Johanna Lundmann
in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938
Name: Johanna Lundmann
Marriage Age: 36
Record Type: ekteskap (Marriage)
Birth Date: abt 1831
Birth Place: Bo (I Romsdalen)
Marriage Date: 19 aug 1867
Marriage Place: Trondheim city, Sør-Trøndelag, Norge (Norway)
Marriage Municipality: Trondheim
Entry Number: 17
Father: John Pedersen Sandvik
Spouse: Jakob Opager
Nr. 17
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20050610011053
I have tried to trace the mother Johanna's origin from this record. Bo i Romsdalen confused me at first, but I discovered that Bud parish in Romsdal is sometimes written Boe, so it may be this. At least there is a Sandvik farm there, with a toddler named Joen Pedersen in 1801.
And then there is a confirmation of 16 years old Johanna Johnsdtr Sandvig in Bud in 1844, with parents John Pedersen and Marie Knudsdtr (#18). Looking further back at Hustad sub-parish, one finds a matching baptism in 1829, with given date of birth 01/15/1829. Finally, she moved to Kristiansund in 1852 (top right), where she probably had a son Adolph two years later.
Thank you! I really appreciate this and I never would have been able to find all this myself. |
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 28/05/2021 : 14:27:33
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Johanne Johnsdatter and Gustav Fredrik Lundman were married in Kristiansund in 1859. Looks like his father had the same name. In the space for the groom's place of birth, I believe it says "fød i Norkøping, boende i Ch sund"; born in Norkøping, living in Christiansund. Norkøping would probably be the Swedish city of Norrköping. His name also has a Swedish ring to it.
No 4 from the bottom. |
Edited by - ToreL on 28/05/2021 21:31:46 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 28/05/2021 : 14:36:57
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There is also an earlier wedding (1953) in the same church book that could be her, or else a sister.
No 5 from the top. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 29/05/2021 : 18:44:13
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I believe it is your Johanne Johnsdatter who married in both 1853 and 1859. The groom in 1853 seems to be an Anders, son of an Erich. Below I link to a witness declaration for the 1859 marriage to Gustav Fredrik Lundman. which contains a reference to Anders Erichsen and July 24 1853, and that Anders had died in 1858.
Gustav's birth in Norkøping is reprated here. The year is 1827 and the date could be 5. October. Stockholm is also mentioned.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/17137/48 |
Edited by - ToreL on 31/05/2021 23:08:54 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 01/06/2021 : 13:13:07
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Gustaf Fredrik's baptism in Norrköping. (Left, third from top.) Parents bryggare (brewer) G. Lundman and H. (Hustru, i.e., wife) Car. (Carolina ?) Christina Ekberg.
And then the family in a listing of the congregation at their addresses 1828-1833 (Link). Gustav Fredrik mistakenly rendered Carl Fredrik. The crossing out of the names probably indicates that they moved house before 1833. |
Edited by - ToreL on 01/06/2021 18:49:29 |
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Looking for help reading a Norwegian Birth record
