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ToreL
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Norway
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 Posted - 22/07/2021 : 23:58:19
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Looking at this from the standpoint of the parents names, using the indexed transcribed records at the digitalarkivet. with their roles defined as bride and groom and a marriage event year between 1825 and 1854, finds only this couple:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000003747582
They are found baptizing two sons in Loiten also, John in 1850 and Mikkel in 1852, but no Martin.
The family is listed in volume 1 of Løten bygdebook. No son Martin there, either. First page. Second page. Chances are this is the wrong couple. |
Edited by - ToreL on 23/07/2021 00:01:02 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 23/07/2021 : 00:28:33
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Hard to find a good candidate in any US Census reports. Here is the best I could find.
Martin O Moen
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Martin O Moen
Age: 61
Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Everett, Snohomish, Washington
Street: Norton Street
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1889
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Marital Status: Divorced
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Laborer
Industry: Logging Camp
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
J Boles
58 Head
Martin O Moen 61 Lodger
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHJH-LTT |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/07/2021 00:30:15 |
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3meterswell
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 23/07/2021 : 01:44:10
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Is Martin's last name of Moen something that is added on when he arrived? Is Moen not his name but a signifier of where he is from? I guess I don't understand how that worked.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 23/07/2021 : 02:53:21
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Based on the information from his death record his father was named Ole Johnson (Johnsen) who lived at or had some relationship with the farm named Moen. So Martin could have used the name Martin Olsen Moen. The farm name is used as something of an address. It could mean the farm the person lived at. Or even worked at.There are even times when the farm name indicates a farm the person or family had a relationship with even if it is some years in the past.
A person can be referred to as Ole Johnsen Moen or Ole Johnsen or even Ole Moen.
He may even be referred to with a few different farm names if he moved during his lifetime. |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/07/2021 02:59:03 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 23/07/2021 : 03:07:23
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| Where did the arrival year of 1879 come from??? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/07/2021 : 04:14:22
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| As mentioned before, it was from the interview of Martin published in the Seattle Daily Times in 1934. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/07/2021 : 05:34:40
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Thanks Jackie, the reason for asking is that the 1920 Census for Martin O Moen of Everett, Snohomish, Washington gives an arrival year of 1889.
Here is a candidate from 1889. Martin Olsen born about 1854 leaving in 1889. Unmarried seaman whose residence is "Am. f. St."?
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000272043
Maybe his arrival. A little long for this trip.
Martin Olsen
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Martin Olsen
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1853
Place of Origin: Norway
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Destination: New York
Arrival Date: 4 Mar 1889
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Aurania
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Edited by - AntonH on 23/07/2021 20:32:41 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 23/07/2021 : 06:22:20
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3meterswell
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 23/07/2021 : 16:59:16
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quote:
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A person can be referred to as Ole Johnsen Moen or Ole Johnsen or even Ole Moen.
He may even be referred to with a few different farm names if he moved during his lifetime.
Thank you for that clarification. Helps me understand why so many different names are being considered. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 23/07/2021 : 20:43:25
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In the grasping at straws department, Martin Olsen Carpenter, married with two children born in Orgeon, immigrated in 1879.
Martin Olsen
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Martin Olsen
Age: 45
Birth Date: Oct 1854
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Taku Inlet, Southern Supervisors District, Alaska
Street: Taku Village
Sheet Number: 111
Institution: Taker Packing Company (Cannery)
Family Number: 796
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1879
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Inger Olsen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Years in US: 21
Naturalization: Naturalized
Occupation: Carpenter
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Farm or House: H
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Martin Olsen 45 Head
Eddie Olsen
11 Son
Inger Olsen
45 Wife
Caroline Olsen
15 Daughter
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/74555095:7602
Inger Olson
in the Alaska, U.S., Vital Records, 1818 -1963
Name: Inger Olson
[Inger Kluberg]
Gender: Female
Death Age: 78
Record Type: Death
Birth Date: 1855
Death Date: 19 Sep 1933
Death Place: Juneau, Alaska, USA
Father: T Kluberg
Spouse: Martin Olson
1933
https://u.cubeupload.com/AntonHagelee/32bScreenShot20210723at.png |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/07/2021 22:26:26 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 23/07/2021 : 22:10:16
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I think this may be worth pursing.
Family in 1920 Census, Martin age is off
Martin Olsen
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Martin Olsen
Age: 52
Birth Year: abt 1868
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Sitka, First Judicial District, Alaska Territory
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1890
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Inger Olsen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Propriter
Industry: Saw Mill
Home Owned or Rented: Owned
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Naturalization Year: 1896
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Martin Olsen 52 Head
Inger Olsen
69 Wife
Edward Olsen
33 Son
Jacob Heckelman
52
Edward Olsen
in the Alaska, U.S., Vital Records, 1818 -1963
Name: Edward Olsen
Gender: Male
Death Age: 32
Record Type: Death
Birth Date: 1889
Death Date: 6 Jun 1921
Death Place: Juneau, Alaska, USA
Father: Martin Olsen
Mother: Inger Cliberg
https://u.cubeupload.com/AntonHagelee/750ScreenShot20210723at.png
Edward Olsen
in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Edward Olsen
Race: White
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1887
Birth Place: Oregon, USA
Residence Date: 1917-1918
Residence Place: Sitka, First Judicial District, Alaska, USA
Physical Build: Medium
Height: Medium
Hair Color: Dark
Eye Color: Blue |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/07/2021 22:15:55 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 23/07/2021 : 22:44:12
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There might be more than one Martin Olsen in Alaska...
This snippet from the Alaska daily Empire Friday, Jun 02, 1916 (Juneau, AK) Page: 6, article titled "Massaxhusetts Relatives Seeking Martin Olsen" The gist of the article is that a man named G.H. Hangerud living at 169 Beacon Hill Ave, Lynn Mass. wrote to the Postmaster J.C. Hendee of Thane about the current whereabouts of Martin Olsen who was supposed to have been at Thane. His old mum last heard from him last year and was worried about him. Martin worked for some machinery company in Seattle but last known address was Thane.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 23/07/2021 : 22:55:22
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Gudmund Hansen Haugerud
in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Gudmund Hansen Haugerud
[Gudmund Hansen Hangerud]
Race: White
Birth Date: 16 Dec 1883
Residence Date: 1917-1918
Street Address: 169 Beacon Hill Ave
Residence Place: Lynn, Essex, Massachusetts, USA
Draft Board: 2
Physical Build: Medium
Height: Medium
Hair Color: Light
Eye Color: Gray
Spouse: Anna K Haugerud
Gudmund Hangerud
in the Massachusetts, U.S., Marriage Records, 1840-1915
Name: Gudmund Hangerud
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1884
Birth Place: Norway
Marriage Date: 5 Dec 1910
Marriage Place: Lynn, Massachusetts, USA
Father: Hans Hangerud
Mother: Christine Olsen
Spouse: Anna Olsen |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/07/2021 22:57:38 |
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