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ToreL
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brejohns
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 Posted - 13/08/2021 : 22:51:43
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| All I can say is wow! You found 4 of the family going to America. It sure appears to me that Martha, Ole and Anders emigrated in 1867 and Ingeborg followed in 1872. Thank you - thank you! Can't believe you found all 4. Now to see if I can confirm that Ingeborg Olsdatter died in 1888 and is buried at Hinderlie Cemetery with her daughter and son-in-law. It's just that they may have incorrectly buried her under a different name - Ingeborg Johnson to match her daughter's name with the dates of 1805 - 1888. What do you think? I think we're pretty close. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/08/2021 : 23:44:58
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Ingeborg's actual stone has no last name on it, Johnson is assumed:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/98297250/ingeborg-johnson
There was a WPA cemetery headstone survey done and Ingeborg (birthdate recorded as deathdate) is recorded as Anderson:
INGEBORG ANDERSON 1805 9 1 LAKE PRESTON KINGSBURY HINDERLIE
The Johnsons are also buried in Lot 9 Block 1 of Hinderlie.
In the WPA survey there were about 55 burials in Hinderlie. FAG lists 73. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 14/08/2021 00:28:08 |
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jkmarler
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brejohns
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Posted - 14/08/2021 : 00:18:55
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| Do you consider this close enough? I really think so. However, my friend was going to find the graves this weekend and see if they were in plots close together. I thought it would help to know that as well. I will let you know what she finds out next week. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the help you've given me. You guys really know your stuff! |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/08/2021 : 00:34:29
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| FAG disadvantages some types of research, in that most cemeteries are not arranged alphabetically by surname of decedent. The older survey method of reading & recording the stones as they lay, is much better to reveal related family names. So good you have a friend to look at their proximity. |
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brejohns
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Posted - 14/08/2021 : 03:46:25
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Originally posted by jkmarler
There is an Ole Anderson in Big Grove Illinois in 1880 census. A very common name but worth looking into:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXV3-GJG
jkmarler I feel this is Ingeborg's son Ole in 1880 as well. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 14/08/2021 : 04:10:44
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Here he is in 1900 census b Mar 1841 udv 1867 :
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MS4Q-69S
By the by, udv or utv is an abbreviation for udvandring or utvandring meaning out migrating.
He is also in this online tree given a death date in 1917 in South Dakota:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/K2V4-662
Probably his marriage in Kendall county in 1874:
ANDERSON, OLE JOHNSON, RACHEL 1874-06-08 A 152 2096 KENDALL
Also recorded in the Lisbon church:
Name: Ole Andersen
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Place: Vop Norge
Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1874
Marriage Place: Lisbon, Illinois, USA
Spouse: Rekel Johannes Dalh
Church Name: Lisbon Lutheran Parish
Church Location: Lisbon, Illinois
Vop Norge is actually Voss, Norway (same place of origin for both Ole and Rakel.) She is listed as Rakel Johannesdatter rather than what's in transcription. Be interesting if she is related to Helge....
Helge Johannesen and Martha Andersdatter are witnesses for the baptism of Ole's and Rakel's first son named Andrew and also the son named Peder Olaus in 1879, and Helge without Martha in 1876 for Ole's son Johannes. |
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brejohns
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Posted - 14/08/2021 : 17:48:24
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| It appears Ole B Anderson lived and died in Lee County Illinois. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/131812536/o.-b.-anderson I find it odd that there is not a marriage record of Martha and Helge for 5 September 1868. I wonder if the date is wrong or they were married outside of IL? It seems the IL marriage records on Ancestry.com only go back to 1871 so that may be the reason? Thanks for explaining the abbreviations. |
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brejohns
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/08/2021 : 01:15:21
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Originally posted by brejohns
It appears Ole B Anderson lived and died in Lee County Illinois. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/131812536/o.-b.-anderson I find it odd that there is not a marriage record of Martha and Helge for 5 September 1868. I wonder if the date is wrong or they were married outside of IL? It seems the IL marriage records on Ancestry.com only go back to 1871 so that may be the reason? Thanks for explaining the abbreviations.
Diverse counties in Illinois have different starting dates, usually at the beginning time of the county. Cook county has a problem because of the fire in 1871, but other counties begin much earlier. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/08/2021 : 01:19:38
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There is an Andrew Anderson and Martha combo in Kendall county:
ANDERSON, ANDREW THOMPSON, MARTHA 1882-03-21 001 0042 KENDALL |
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brejohns
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Posted - 15/08/2021 : 22:51:08
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| jkmarler - where did you find the combo of Andrew and Martha in Kendall County? |
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jkmarler
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Ingeborg Olsdatter 1805 Voss died where & when
