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melbj
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 Posted - 26/08/2022 : 03:17:09
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I have found some passenger lists and I admit I am a bit confused and looking for guidance and/or interpretation.
There are three individuals: Aslak Berge, 30; Ingeborg Jore, 26; Signe Svalestuen, 20; all from Rauland, Telemark and all claiming Willmar, Minnesota as a destination.
1. From White Star-linjen, SAO/PAO-0201/D/Da/L0002; Emigrant, 1890-1900, with this at the top of the page, "Emigranter afgaaede med S.S. Germanic, 18/5; Christiania den 27 Mai 1892, S. S. Angelo": Date: May 18, 1892, Line: White Star, Ship: S.S. Germanic, Embark: Liverpool, Residence: Telemarken, Destination: Wilmar
2. From Oslo politidistrikt, SAO/A-10085/E/Ee/Eef/L0017: Emigrantprotokoll, 1892-893: Date: May 27, 1892, Line: Elster, Ship: S.S. Angelo, Embark: Kristiania, Residence: Silgjord, Destination: Wilmar
3. From Ellis Island database: Date: June 13, 1892, Line: Cunard, Ship: S.S. Etruria, Embark: Liverpool, Residence: Bergan, Destination: Minnesota, Passengers: Ingeborg Jore and Signe Svalestuen
4. From Ellis Island database: Date: June 15, 1892, Line: White Star, Ship: S.S. Majestic, Embark: Liverpool & Queenstown, Residence: Christa, Passenger: Aslak Berger [I believe transcription error]
My biggest question is May 18, 1892 and May 27, 1892. I'm not sure how there is an embark location of Liverpool prior to the May 27, 1892 embark location of Kristiania?
I think I understand that it is plausible for the parties to have separated and booked passage on separate vessels, perhaps in Liverpool, but is that, in your opinion, a common circumstance?
To the best of my knowledge, none of these individuals ever made it to Willmar. They all settled in different parts of the country with passage through Minnesota.
Any insight would be appreciated.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/08/2022 : 14:58:35
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Here is a link to the actual page for 27 May 1892 departure for the three #9669:
White Star-linjen, SAO/PAO-0201/D/Da/L0002: Emigrant, 1890-1900
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/em20110223670301
Having looked a few forward and backward from this, generally those little dates appear to relate to the departure of the ship whose transatlantic passage is booked. Perhaps the clerk was having a brain freeze?
But on another level, since the women ended up on another ship entirely than the Majestic even another line and 2 days earlier maybe they travelled on a voyage that suited their plans better?
You don't really know what the relationship was between Aslak and the women was except for the mark in the record, maybe there was none other than convenience?
An Ingeborg Jore has an advertised letter to pick up at the Fergus Falls Minn. Post office listed in the 5 July 1893 issue page 8 col 2 of the Fergus Falls Ugeblad.
Generally, there are very few records that might place any of them in Willmar other than something like a newspaper account or family memories.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/08/2022 : 00:39:14
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The log SAO/PAO-0201/D/Da/L0002 you're looking at is from the White Star Line's Christiania office, and is for the passengers on the feeder ship SS Angelo which took them to England.
You found Ingeborg Jore and Signe Svalestuen arriving on the Etruria, and Aslak on the Majestic, so that should be treated as a fact.
Etruria left Liverpool June 4th and arrived New York June 11th.
Majestic arrived New York June 15th, probably leaving Liverpool around June 8-9th
So the date leaving Christiania on the SS Angelo should be May 2th.
The 3 ppl would have split in Liverpool. Maybe Aslak didn't make for the early departure after a night out in the pubs of Liverpool...?  |
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melbj
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Posted - 27/08/2022 : 16:01:03
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| Thank you for the help. These three were extended family to each other (either cousins and/or nieces), so was a bit surprised when they separated, but as I say, they all did settle in different parts of the country but all spent time in Minnesota. I think I understand a bit better now. |
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