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dylankylesimon
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 Posted - 12/02/2023 : 17:42:27
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What pictures are you looking for? If you look for a map, go Jackie's route. However, you can also find pictures of some farms within published books on nb.no
Sometimes, those books are only accessible through a Norwegian library, and sometimes only through a Norwegian IP address. If you tell me what specific farm you are looking for, I can take a look for you. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/02/2023 : 18:13:05
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Here is a Family Tree on Geneanet. Not sure it provides much new information but it might be worth a look.
Hendrik Andersen PØTTEN
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johanAronsen63
Junior member
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Posted - 12/02/2023 : 20:49:02
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Originally posted by johanAronsen63
And what about Maren Kristine Andersdatter (1835-1895)’s family. I see that each of her ancestors came from various different farms in Brunlanes. Pøtten/Pytten is one of them but there are others (Holone, Vestre-Aske, Austre-Sanni, Jorde, Stokkeskog, Brunevald). I wonder about those farms and the roles of my people within them. Also, were there ever images of the farms? If so, where can I find them?
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So where did you get the farm name info if you don't know the people on the farms?
What I meant was to ask about Maren Kristine Andersdr's (b.1835) grandmother, Marthe Svendsdatter (b. 1771). Who were her parents? Also, I wanted to know more about her husband, Hendrik Andersen's (b. 1761) mother, Mari Hendriksdatter (b. 1722) and her parents.
Also here's a few other people that I have questions about. (1.) Hans Schaane (b.1685 in Brunlanes)... Is his name German? I ask this because I found that many people from Brunlanes descend from Germans in the 15th and 16th centuries. Also, are there any documents that tell us his lineage? (2.) Who were the parents of Kari Auenssøn Vestre-Aske (b. 1698)? (3.) What did the Pøtten farm look like? |
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dylankylesimon
Senior member
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Posted - 12/02/2023 : 22:58:16
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Okay, well here are a few farms that I found from the ones that you listed including Pøtten, today probably Pytten.
Today Søndre Pøtten is located at Ullebergveien 80, 3267 Larvik, Norway
Pytten itself stretches over about 2 miles/3.2km. This is what Søndre Pøtten looks like today.
Here is some history about Pøtten - Pytten
1389 Pyttenom
1528 Pitten
1563 Pyttenn
1575 Pythenn
1593 Pøtten
1600 Potten
Looks like there was a Norther Pøtten and a Southern Pøtten
Out of the 1992 Book: Brunlanes : en bygdebok. 3 1 : Gårds- og slektshistorie fra ca. 1780 Tanum sogn
Looks very much like today, in my opinion.
Out of the 1947 Book: Brunlanes kommune gjennem hundre år : 1837-1937
Also here, in the bottom picture, it looks very much like today.
As you can see, there are books on books on books about each farm, unfortunately, it takes quite some time to go through most of them, in particular, because I don't know the context of your research and unfortunately also don't have the time to get caught up on all your research, but I am willing to help out if you can give me a brief context of who or what you are looking for. Also, I am really terrible at reading older documents, so I am not really able to help you with any before the 1800s. Sometimes, if a person wrote the entry clear, I can read it, but not always.
I speak German and English. Schanne is historically most common in Germany, but sometimes it's very difficult from where or what these names really originate.
If I pronounce Schanne, the first word that comes to my mind in German is: Schöne, which means beauty. Given the first name Hans, which originates from Germany, I would probably agree that there is German ancestry.
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
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Posted - 13/02/2023 : 10:43:41
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| The modern spelling of the surname Schaane that Johan asks about, would be Skåne. There is a Skåne farm close to Borre/Horten. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 13/02/2023 : 13:26:26
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| One Hans Larsen Skaane is mentioned in Borre bygdebok. Do you have more on your Hans Schaane? Year of death, children, other relatives? |
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jkmarler
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ToreL
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Posted - 13/02/2023 : 20:03:29
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| Here is a double page from Borre bygdebok about the Freberg farm, according to which Hans Larsen Freberg also called himself Hans Larsen Skaane. The birth year of 1693 doesn't match yours of 1685; the seriousness of this depends on the reliability of the sources. |
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johanAronsen63
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Posted - 13/02/2023 : 22:45:09
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Originally posted by ToreL
Here is a double page from Borre bygdebok about the Freberg farm, according to which Hans Larsen Freberg also called himself Hans Larsen Skaane. The birth year of 1693 doesn't match yours of 1685; the seriousness of this depends on the reliability of the sources.
That's the right one!! You've found him. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 15/02/2023 : 15:11:14
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Originally posted by johanAronsen63
(2.) Who were the parents of Kari Auenssøn Vestre-Aske (b. 1698)?
Brunlanes bygdebok mentions one Hans Auenssøn who had the Vestre Aske farm from 1719 to 1761, and who was married to Kari Anunsdatter, i.e., Kari, daughter of Anun.
For what it is worth, googling "Kari Anunsdatter" and 1698 yields this, and here is a double page from the piece on Tvedalen (Tveitdalen) in Brunlanes bygdebok. |
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 24/02/2023 : 19:54:41
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 24/02/2023 : 23:44:05
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johanAronsen63
Junior member
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Posted - 25/03/2023 : 23:41:27
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| When did Henrik Otto Aronsen (Andersen sometimes) die? Did he live in New York, or did he go back and forth? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/03/2023 : 09:39:14
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Larvik Sailors' roll, patent no. 3530. Henrik Otto Aronsen used this patent from 1888/1889 to 1893. In one of the columns to the far right, it says Rømt i Pensacola. Rømt means that he abandoned the ship in breach of contract. This appears to have happended on an unspecified day in February of 1893, and the ship's name looks like Natant. True enough, according to a Norwegian Newspaper, Natant arrived in Pensacola on January 17th, 1893.
In the far, far right column there are a bunch of other dates. Does anyone know the significance there? 27 Dec 1899 - 4 Dec 1910 or 1900?
He was born in 17 July 1868 Larvik, went to sea as a deckboy in Feb 1888 on Paulus, went to sea on 4 Jan 1889, is listed in 1891 Norwegian census as resident of New York, probably in Pensacola Florida in Feb 1893, and then those other dates.
There are lots of Henry Anderson born Norway in US in various years and places but not so many Henry Aronson born Norway.
https://www.nb.no/items/ce3b6b4e5f01474481198cb7f846e63e?page=31&searchText=%22henrik%20otto%20aronsen%22 |
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johanAronsen63
Junior member
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Posted - 29/03/2023 : 00:02:40
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| Yes, or maybe he listed under his middle name, Otto, in New York records. My ancestor, Johan Albrecht Aronsen (in Norwegian), came to US and used the name Albert J. Aronsen. |
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*Johan’s genealogical study #2*
