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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 07/01/2023 : 00:07:00
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According to a Family Tree on Ancestry.com this is Henrik Olsen born about 1797 with his family in the 1801 Census. The family is back in Aurskog for this Census.
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058220001456
We are getting far enough back in time that you probably need to see if there is a Bygdebok that covers this family and this farm before I would conclude that the Tree is correct. |
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SamBland
New on board
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/01/2023 : 14:42:56
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Wow, I think I need to write all of this down! The only info I have had is a new paper clipping which told me who his brothers and sisters were, I may a little stupid in asking this but how did the name Klemesrud come about? Is it from Klemmestrude, I don’t understand that element of it all, I live in the UK, my father lives in the US and he doesn’t know much either, did they own a farm named Klemmestrude, I’m really sorry if I sound stupid, I don’t get the connection.
Many thanks for you help so far.
Best wishes
Sam
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2023 : 16:32:26
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quote:
Originally posted by SamBland
Hi Anton,
Wow thank you, that’s amazing, yes that’s him, I was looking to see how we got the name Klemesrud, as the farm it’s associated with Sigvart (my great grandfather) only worked there, we don’t really know much outside of the US Sigvart went to the US aged 19, so although he could speak Norwegian, no one else in the family can, we also do not have much history on either side of our families descendants, your comments are most helpful thank you once again for your help
best wishes Sam
Sam Bland (is this name familiar to you?) wrote asking for information about Sigvart Olson. The entry above acknowledges that Sam thinks the Klemesrud / Klemmetsrude person found is the same person as Sigvart Olson. Klemesrud is a farm name. In Norway there is a traditional naming system which puts the farm name at the end of the given and patronymic name while the person lives on that particular farm. The naming system in US and other English speaking places is different as you inherit your father's surname. So immigrants have decisions to make how to be known in their new country. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2023 : 18:01:08
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Jackie gave you a good explanation on naming practices in Norway before the 1900's and the use of a farm name attached onto the end of the persons patronymic name. My name is a good example of what sometimes happens when a Norwegian moves to America. My grandfather was named Anton Olsen and was born on the Høgeli farm in Norway. In Norwegian parish records he was referred to as Anton Olsen or Anton Olsen Høgeli and even Anton Høgeli. When working on a neighboring farm he was referred to as Anton Olsen Skjæggedal. When he arrived in Minnesota he adopted the name Anton Hagelee an Americanized version of Høgeli. Too many Olsens here already I guess.
So your ancestor adopting the farm name of Klemesrud as a last name is not at all unusual. The spelling of the farm names can vary some, that is also not unusual. I see in the Family Search article on the Aurskog parish that the name is spelled Klemetsrud. It is probably a small farm as it is included in the list of farm names under the large farm of Mangen Nordre along with a couple of other small farms.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Aurskog_Parish,_Akershus,_Norway_Genealogy
To the question, did he own the farm. That is difficult to tell. Maybe but probably not. More likely he was a renter of the farm. A cotter or in Norwegian a husmann.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2023 : 19:46:09
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There are a lot of Family Trees on Ancestry.com for the Klemsrud family in America. You would have to get a subscription with Ancestry to access them of course. But there are also some family trees on Family Search as well. You need to sign up for Family Search but there is no cost. Here are some links for children of Ole Hendriksen Klemsrud and Randine Hansdatter.
Ole Oleson Klemsrud
1858–1934
BIRTH 11 JUN 1858 • Norway
DEATH 1934 • Estelline, Hamlin, South Dakota, USA
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/L4HK-LQK
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2023 : 19:58:59
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Interesting, it looks as if at least one of the children remained in Norway.
Halvor
in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938
Name: Halvor
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: dåp (Baptism)
Birth Date: 31 mai 1855 (31 May 1855)
Baptism Date: 1 Juli 1855
Baptism Place: Aurskog, Akershus, Norge (Norway)
Baptism Municipality: Aurskog
Father:
Ole Hendriksen
Mother:
Randine Hansd
Nr. 94
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060929050021
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2023 : 20:03:46
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Married in 1879.
Halvor Olsen Klemetsrud
in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938
Name: Halvor Olsen Klemetsrud
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: ekteskap (Marriage)
Birth Date: 1855
Marriage Date: 13 Nov 1879
Marriage Place: Aurskog, Akershus, Norge (Norway)
Marriage Municipality: Aurskog
Father:
Ole Henriksen Klemetsrud
Spouse:
Berte Halvorsdr. Braaten
Nr. 14
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060314010700
Here Halvor is listed as living on Klemetsrud under Mangen Nordre.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2023 : 20:10:38
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Here is Halvor and family living in Aurskog also spelled Urskoug in the 1891 Norwegian Census.
Halvor Olsen
in the 1891 Norway Census
Name: Halvor Olsen
Gender: Mann (Male)
Marital Status: Gift (Married)
Relation to Head: Familiens overhode (Head)
Birth Date: 1855
Birth Place: Urskoug sogn
Residence Place: Urskoug, Aurskog, Akershus, Norge (Norway)
Assumed Place of Living: Haug i Urskoug
Counting District Number: 2
Houselist Number: 23
Person Number: 1
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Halvor Olsen 36 Familiens overhode (Head)
Bertia Halvorsdtr.
36 Hustru (Wife)
Hanna Halvorsdtr.
11 Datter (Daughter)
Ragna Halvorsdtr.
9 Datter (Daughter)
Oluf Halvorsen
6 Søn (Son)
Sigvart Halvorsen
1 Søn (Son)
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052708000267
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Edited by - AntonH on 07/01/2023 20:11:16 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/01/2023 : 20:17:03
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In the 1910 Census, it would appear that Halvor is deceased, His wife is using his last name of Olsen. Several children are stil living with the mother including the son named Sigvart.
Sigvart Halvorsen
in the 1910 Norway Census
Name: Sigvart Halvorsen
Gender: Mann (Male)
Marital Status: Ugift (Single)
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1890
Birth Place: Urskog
Residence Place: Aurskog, Akershus, Norge (Norway)
Relation to Head: Son
Settled or Nomadic: b
Counting District: Fagerlien
Counting District Number: 0016
Enumeration District: Ovlien og Fagerlien
Enumeration District Number: 001
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Bertha Olsen
56 husmoder (Head)
Oluf Halvorsen
26 Son
Sigvart Halvorsen 20 Son
Betsy Halvorsen
18 Datter (Daughter)
H. Lundberg
21 einsleg losjerande
Olaf I. Gaustad
28 einsleg losjerande
John I. Gaustad
21 einsleg losjerande
Lars I. Gaustad
20 einsleg losjerande
Peder I. Kvindegaard
besøkande
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036377000152
Seems as if Sigvart is a name that runs in your family?
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2023 : 20:32:08
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The son Sigvart marries in 1918. Note the family is starting to use the farm name Fagerlien or close to that. Where they are now living.
They also have moved over one parish to Høland Parish, Akershus.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Høland_Parish,_Akershus,_Norway_Genealogy
Sigvart Halvorsen Fagedlien
in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938
Name: Sigvart Halvorsen Fagedlien
Marriage Age: 28
Record Type: ekteskap (Marriage)
Birth Date: 3 Nov 1890
Birth Place: Fogerlien i Urskog
Marriage Date: 28 des 1918 (28 Dec 1918)
Marriage Place: Høland, Akershus, Norge (Norway)
Marriage Municipality: Nordre Høland
Residence Place: Garsjøen i Urskog
Father:
Halvor Olsen
Spouse:
Anna Mathilde Kristiansdt Melby
Nr. 18
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060209031119
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Edited by - AntonH on 07/01/2023 20:35:52 |
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