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Tor Olestad
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  12:49:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello looking for some history of,Johannes Matiassen ,born in norway in 1881.30.12 hedemark county,ringsaker,He was son of Matias Arnesen and wife Ingeborg pedersdatter,Johannes matiassen emigrated to illinois in usa 1901,05.01In 1931 he was back in norway,married and get four children.Then he get divorsed and in 1964 he was dead,his grandchild is intresting to now if he had familie in usa,if he was married or had children over there,so if somone can help find,some thing its very kind of you,He used name John Mathisen in usa

tor olestad

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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  15:45:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is most likely your guy applying for a passport in 1922, he has the same father and the same birthdate year is 1882 instead of 1881 image of 1st page. There is also a picture of him on the second page:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G96W-KXYZ?i=183&cc=2185145&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQKDF-SH2W

transcription of first page:
"United States Passport Applications, 1795-1925," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKDF-SH2W : 16 March 2018), John Mathisen, 1922; citing Passport Application, Illinois, United States, source certificate #208462, Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925, 2072, NARA microfilm publications M1490 and M1372 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.)

Hopefully, the site will allow you to look but if not you might have to join but there is no charge for that, you just have to remember your password and screen name.
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2023 :  15:59:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On his naturalization in 1910 there appears a witness named Peter Mathison, is he a relative?

Image:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPQQ-Q57M?i=7697&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AXKGX-5N9

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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  16:37:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Possible candidate in 1910 Census. Lives at 1022 Greenwood Blvd. Evanston Illinois as in Naturalization Index posted by Jackie.

John Mathewson
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: John Mathewson
Age in 1910: 27
Birth Date: 1883
[1883]
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Evanston Ward 2, Cook, Illinois, USA
Street: Greenwood Ave
Race: White
Gender: Male
[Female]
Relation to Head of House: Servant
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Coachman
Industry: Private Family
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Out of Work: N
Number of Weeks Out of Work: 0
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Joseph W Kepler
67 Head
Martha Kepler
66 Wife
Christina Strang
19 Servant
Jane Feehen
35 Servant
John Mathewson 27 Servant

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKH2-283


Edited by - AntonH on 03/02/2023 16:41:30
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  16:44:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is his arrival in Boston, Massachusetts. Johannes thinks in 1922 that his arrival was in New York and he may have gotten off the boat then but in US passenger lists are filed at the first port of call not necessarily where any individual passenger got off. He is headed to his brother Chr. Mathison who is at Evanston, Illinois:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYW9-LZ6?i=338&cc=1923995&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A236V-3FF
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  16:45:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also perhaps this guy who arrived in 1901 in the 1930 Census.

John Mathisen
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: John Mathisen
Birth Year: abt 1880
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age in 1930: 50
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
Map of Home: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Street Address: Union Ave
Ward of City: 11 Tract 538 Part of
Block: 93
House Number: 2915 Rear
Dwelling Number: 139
Family Number: 261
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Home Value: 7
Radio Set: No
Lives on Farm: No
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Language Spoken: Norwegian
Immigration Year: 1901
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Laborer
Industry: Harvestering Co
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: No
Veteran: Yes
War: WW
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Mathisen 50 Head

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSLQ-8TN


Edited by - AntonH on 03/02/2023 16:47:14
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  16:54:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nothing different in the Ancestry.com record for his arrival.

Johanes Mathiason
in the Massachusetts, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Johanes Mathiason
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1880
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Residence Place: Christiania
Arrival Date: 22 May 1901
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Ship: Ivernia
Friend: Chr Mathison

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/1792421:8745?tid=&pid=&queryId=41c937a029006843f831a76b4870870f&_phsrc=ipw8&_phstart=successSource

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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  16:56:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the emigration record for him in 1901, although the leaving date does not match the OP's date?

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000524888

But the passenger next to him on the arrival document does match the passenger next to him on the emigrating list. Eric O Løkke and family

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000524889

Edited by - AntonH on 03/02/2023 17:01:26
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  17:09:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if this is his brother Christ. Same odd spelling of the last name.

Christ Mathewson
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Christ Mathewson
Age in 1910: 34
Birth Date: 1876
[1876]
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Evanston Ward 4, Cook, Illinois, USA
Street: Warren St
House Number: 1104
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1897
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lydia Mathewson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Conductor
Industry: Store Co
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 8
Out of Work: N
Number of Weeks Out of Work: 0
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Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Christ Mathewson 34 Head
Lydia Mathewson
34 Wife
Ruth Mathewson
7 Daughter
Grace Mathewson
5 Daughter
Gordon Mathewson
3 Son
Haegar Mathewson
0 Daughter

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/4426177:7884?tid=&pid=&queryId=94173baa84047206fde9c19088c4bade&_phsrc=ipw11&_phstart=successSource


Edited by - AntonH on 03/02/2023 17:13:09
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2023 :  17:12:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The family in the 1891 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052725007435
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2023 :  17:40:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AntonH

The family in the 1891 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052725007435



Family includes a Peder, a Kristian, and Johannes!

Here is Peder's death in US:
Name Peter Mathison
Sex Male
Age abt 50y
Death Date 14 Nov 1919
Death Place Evanston, Cook, Illinois
Occupation Janitor
Race White
Ethnicity American
Father's Name Mathias Mathison
Mother's Name Ingabord Peterson
Event Type Death
Age About 50 years
Age About 50y
Race White
Race White
Birth Year (Estimated) 1869
Birthplace Norway
Burial Date 16 Nov 1919
Burial Place Memorial Park
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Residence Place Evanston, Cook, Illinois
Peter Mathison's Parents and Siblings
Mathias Mathison
Father
Ingabord Peterson
Mother
Image Unavailable
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Tor Olestad
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Norway
10 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2023 :  17:47:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

On his naturalization in 1910 there appears a witness named Peter Mathison, is he a relative?

Image:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPQQ-Q57M?i=7697&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AXKGX-5N9



yes i think he is a relative

tor olestad
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2023 :  18:07:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kristian Mathisen of Ringsaker left Norway in 1896 for Evanston, Illinois.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000507209

And Peder Mathison of Ringsaker left Norway in 1891 for Evanston.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000473539




Edited by - AntonH on 03/02/2023 18:09:54
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2023 :  18:20:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Same parents as Johannes.

Kristian Mathiassen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Kristian Mathiassen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 okt 1875 (24 Oct 1875)
Baptism Date: 12 des 1875 (12 Dec 1875)
Baptism Place: Ringsaker, Hedmark, Norway
Father:
Mathias Arnesen
Mother:
Ingeborg Pedersdr
FHL Film Number: 307214

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AntonH
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  18:22:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He did not stay in Illinois very long.

Christian Mathisen
in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Christian Mathisen
Race: White
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1875
Residence Date: 1917-1918
Street Address: 1610 Meadow Ave
Residence Place: Los Angeles County, California, USA
Draft Board: 5
Physical Build: Medium
Height: Tall
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Blue
Spouse:
Lidia Mattisen

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/19536026:6482

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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 03/02/2023 :  18:26:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So Johannes went back to Norway but his two brothers died in America.

Christian Mathisen
in the California, U.S., Death Index, 1940-1997

Name: Christian Mathisen
Social Security #: 551055844
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1875
Birth Place: Other Country
Death Date: 9 Nov 1949
Death Place: Los Angeles
Father's Surname: Mathisen

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/4690705:5180?ssrc=pt&tid=188912610&pid=182452259328


Edited by - AntonH on 03/02/2023 18:27:20
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