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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 05/08/2023 : 00:12:48
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Originally posted by AntonH
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Long shot for Mary / Martha's first marriage #8:
Hurdal prestekontor Kirkebøker, SAO/A-10889/F/Fa/L0006: Ministerialbok nr. I 6, 1860-1877, s. 120
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060308030128
For what it's worth there is a tree on ancestry for this couple called Lars Andersen Bakken. However the tree on both ancestry and FamilySearch have the bride born in Gran Upland?
Martha Bakken
Census • United States Census, 1900
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93Z-CJ4
The Gran birthplace comes from the marriage info in Hurdal. Don't see much matching in the way of children for this couple to the 1880 couple. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/08/2023 : 00:17:49
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In the 1885 Wisconsin Census, John Anderson is living with his family in Vernon, Waukesha County. The family consists of 2 males and 4 females. That would be parents John and Mary and children Jenny and Mary born in Norway and Margaret Ann born in Wisconsin and son Elmer also born in Wisconsin.
John Anderson
in the Wisconsin, U.S., State Censuses, 1855-1905
Detail Source
Name John Anderson
Residence Date 1885
Residence Place Vernon, Waukesha, Wisconsin, USA
Relationship Head
Neighbors View others on page
Household Members (Name) Relationship
John Anderson Head
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3007690:1055?ssrc=pt&tid=192394227&pid=352511650720
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AntonH
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/08/2023 : 02:04:44
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Originally posted by AntonH
This may be the family in the 1900 Census but the children from the 1880 Census are gone and a younger two are listed
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM2L-LCZ
In this and also the 1910 census, Mary has had 6 children and only 5 are living.
Jennie b Norway
Mary b Wisconsin
Margaret b"
Elmer b"
Emma b"
______?
There is a female unnamed Anderson born in Waukesha in 1879. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 05/08/2023 02:11:07 |
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/08/2023 : 08:10:24
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Arrival of Maren and two daughters, see Numbers 71, 72, and 73.
There is a Maren Olsdaatter Nr 68, difficult to tell if she is part of the Maren and two girls group.
Lensi Larsdatta
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Lensi Larsdatta
[Lina Larsdatter]
Ethnicity/ Nationality Swedish
Age 3
Birth Date abt 1868
Place of Origin Sweden
Departure Port Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination USA
Arrival Date 31 Jul 1871
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Wisconsin
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Edited by - AntonH on 05/08/2023 08:11:39 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/08/2023 : 08:18:48
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A good example of how far the ages can be. Here is Maren, born in 1835? Interesting someone knew this family well enough to give the correct names for the two passengers.
Marien Gulbendetta
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Marien Gulbendetta
[Maren Gulbrandsdatter]
Gender Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality Swedish
Age 36
Birth Date abt 1835
Place of Origin Sweden
Departure Port Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination USA
Arrival Date 31 Jul 1871
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Wisconsin
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/15674369:7488?tid=&pid=&queryId=7343476c0ad0ea9f604e110aa8f5bfca&_phsrc=UYn19&_phstart=successSource |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/08/2023 08:22:28 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/08/2023 : 08:23:52
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Infant
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957\\\
Name Infant
Ethnicity/ Nationality Swedish
Age 0
Birth Date abt 1871
Place of Origin Sweden
Departure Port Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination USA
Arrival Date 31 Jul 1871
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Ship Name Wisconsin |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2023 : 14:13:06
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#34-36 Maren and girls leaving Vinger
Vinger prestekontor, SAH/PREST-024/H/Ha/Haa/L0012: Ministerialbok nr. 12, 1871-1880, s. 483
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070111650203
Tree at familysearch : https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/L4SD-GDN
There are notes on the family tree at familysearch.org: This on Maren
Maren reiste til Amerika med skipet "Oder" den 14.juli 1871. Reisemålet var Milwaukee. Maren står oppført som passasjernr. 1923 i Politiets utvandrerliste for 1871. Liste kan fåes ved henvendelse til Nordmannsforbundet, Rådhustgt. 23 B, Oslo
And this on Lars:
"Lars Larsen er Charles Larsen som emigre
Lars Larsen er Charles Larsen som emigrerte til Amerika 1. juli i 1870 med båten Hero og reisemålet var Milwaukee. Han står oppført som nr. 1553 i politiets emigrantliser fra 1870 med navnet Lars Larsen Vestaberget. Ektefellen Maren Gulbrandsdatter reiste etter i 1871, sammen med tre av barna Maren, Line og Gurine."
Google translate:
Lars Larsen is Charles Larsen as an emigre
Lars Larsen is Charles Larsen who emigrated to America on 1 July 1870 with the boat Hero and the destination was Milwaukee. He is listed as no. 1553 in the police emigrant list from 1870 with the name Lars Larsen Vestaberget. Spouse Maren Gulbrandsdatter left in 1871, together with three of the children Maren, Line and Gurine.
Both were posted in 2013 by svestaberg2703803
There are some sources on this family tree including a link to the Vestaberg listing from the Vinger bygdebok, which of course, I can't see because of my IP address.
The earliest 2 sources in the tree in American records for Charles Larson both indicate his birth year as 1845. They are his marriage to Karen Diedrickson in 1875 in Nebraska, and the 1880 census also in Nebraska. His headstone reports 1838 and death date as 1912.
According to the parish register Maren Gulbrandsdatter left in 1871 with 2 children. There is only one other Maren in the parish list leaving in 1871. That Maren is 24 years old and heading to Christiania.
Charles Larson in 1900 census gives birth date as Oct 1842 and immigration year as 1870. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M3BK-M39
And here is #18 Karelius Larsen M_____ aged 29 1/2 leaving Vinger in April 1870 in the parish register:
Vinger prestekontor, SAH/PREST-024/H/Ha/Haa/L0011: Ministerialbok nr. 11, 1862-1870, s. 484
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070124340218
And Carelius from the police list: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000403504
And Lars Larsen Vestaberget from the police list leaving in July:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9/og00000000408374
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/08/2023 : 17:30:35
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2023 : 17:52:03
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Margaret Ann Anderson
1878–1948
BIRTH 21 JUNE 1878 • Genesee, Waukesha, Wisconsin, USA
DEATH 1948 • Waukesha, Waukesha, Wisconsin, United States
Lots of information on her and her family. Problem was with her mother and father.
She was married twice.
Margaret Martin
in the U.S., Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current
Name Margaret Martin
Maiden Name Anderson
Birth Date 21 Jun 1878
Birth Place United States of America
Death Date 1948
Death Place Waukesha, Waukesha County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Cemetery Saint Pauls Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Genesee, Waukesha County, Wisconsin, United States of America
Has Bio? N
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9301 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2023 : 18:02:17
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I am coming around to the fact that we probably know that Marry Anderson wife of John Anderson from Jefferson and Waukesha counties is the same person as Maren Gulbrandsdatter from Vinger Hedmark.
I am also assuming that her first husband Lars Larsen died maybe sometime between his arrival in 1870 or more likely the birth of stepdaughter Mary born about 1873 and the birth of Margaret in 1878.
But I have no information on John Anderson prior to his appearance in the 1880 Census.
Detail Source
Name John Anderson
Age 28
Birth Date Abt 1852
Birthplace Norway
Home in 1880 Sullivan, Jefferson, Wisconsin, USA
Dwelling Number 220
Race White
Gender Male
Relation to Head of House Self (Head)
Marital Status Married
Spouse's Name Mary Anderson
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Occupation Laborer
Neighbors View others on page
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Anderson 28 Self (Head)
Mary Anderson
37 Wife
Maggie Anderson
2 Daughter
Jennie Larson
9 Stepdaughter (Step Daughter)
Mary Larson
7 Stepdaughter (Step Daughter)
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 05/08/2023 : 18:26:35
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Last Name: Larson
First Name: Chris John
Death Year: 1877
Death Month: 04
Death Day: 22
County: Waukesha
Portrait?:
REFERENCE DETAILS
County: Waukesha
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 15
Microfilm Reel: 134
Index Volume:
Sequence Number: 219687
Collection: Wisconsin Pre-1907 Vital Records Collection
If he can be thought of as Charles might he also be Chris John (Christian?) |
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jkmarler
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Who are the parents of Margaret Anderson
