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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/12/2023 : 19:17:45
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quote: Originally posted by MarkMikk
Thank you so much, everyone! The information is fascinating. I am just learning how to navigate the Digitalarkivet website and have created a profile.
If anyone who reads Norwegian, I have Alfred's birth certificate and a letter (contract?) from the local authorities allowing my great-grandmother and her sons to leave Norway and immigrate to North America. I would really like to know what the documents say. I have them as img documents on my computer and can email them to someone to read. All I need is someone to provide me with their email address so that I can send them to you.
I am not able to figure out how to upload them to this website.
Depending on when your Alfred's certificate was obtained, there is a possibility that it was a document made by transferring the information contained in the church record of his birth and baptism to a standard form. Otherwise looking at the links provided for his baptism are the best & only you are likely to find in Norway. The Lutheran church in Norway is a state church and functions as a record keeping body on the people of Norway.
You mentioned that you are just learning about the Digitalarkivet. In times gone by the indexed records searchable on the Digitalarkivet side have been pretty reliable. However, I think that some of the indexing of the Furnes records have been outsourced to non Norwegian speakers for indexing and I found the work for some of the sibling's baptisms to not be 100% reliable. Some incorrect readings and in a number of cases the actual hyper link to the original scans not taking you to the correct record.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 30/12/2023 : 19:25:28
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quote: Originally posted by AntonH
Nice bit of work by you two Tore and Jackie. The family trees for this family on Ancestry.com provide a good illustration on why one should be very careful of trees on Ancestry. Especially for trees managed by Americans when the tree ventures from America to Norway. I find 26 trees on Ancestr for family
Focusing on Erich Mikkelson found with the family by Jackie with the family in the 1900 census in Minnesota. The 1875 Census lists him as born in Furnæs, Hedmark. In the Ancestry trees I find him listed as born in Ringsaker, Hedmark as the closest birth placer to Furnæs. But I also find him born BIRTH 23 JUL 1873 • Stolen, Oppdal, Sor-Trondelag, Norway as well.
That leaves him with two sets of parents only one ow which is correct.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/12/2023 : 20:17:43
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Well Ancestry.com might not always have accurate trees but the site is useful anyway. here is the marriage on the site. Gives the useful information of fathers of the bride and groom.
Mikel Larsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name Mikel Larsen Gender Male Marriage Date 3. nov 1872 (3 Nov 1872) Marriage Place Furnes,Hedmark,Norway Father Lars Larsen Spouse Pernille Eriksdr FHL Film Number 1282572
Pernille Eriksdr in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name Pernille Eriksdr [Pernille Andersen] Gender Female Marriage Date 3. nov 1872 (3 Nov 1872) Marriage Place Furnes,Hedmark,Norway Father Erik Andersen Spouse Mikel Larsen FHL Film Number 1282572
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/3485001:60095 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 30/12/2023 : 20:30:40
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The orginal record is also useful as it gives the ages of the bride and groom. That and the father's names helps in searching for the baptism of Mikel and Pernille.
Nr 15
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061128350682
Transcribed Version
Mikel Larsen in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938 Name Mikel Larsen Gender Mannlig (Male) Residence Age 31 Marriage Date 1872 Residence Place Sandbow Spouse Pernille Eriksdatter Child Lars
Pernille Eriksdatter in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938 Name Pernille Eriksdatter Gender Kvinnelig Residence Age 24 Marriage Date 1872 Residence Place Sundvold Spouse Mikel Larsen Child Lars
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/121429544:60606
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 30/12/2023 : 22:45:54
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Here is the marriage of Oliv and Lars in 1838. Her father is Daniel Andersen.
Oliv Danielsdr in the Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s Name Oliv Danielsdr [Oliv Andersen] Age 23 years Gender Female Birth Date Ca.1815 Marriage Date 17. apr 1838 (17 Apr 1838) Marriage Place Vang, Hedmark, Norway Spouse Lars Larsen Spouse's Age 23 years Spouse's Gender Male Spouse's Birth Date Ca.1815 Father Daniel Andersen Spouse's Father Lars Larsen
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/311292:1346
The father of Lars Larsen born around 1815 is also named Lars Larsen
Original record is Nr 10
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070512930668
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Edited by - AntonH on 30/12/2023 22:53:16 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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MarkMikk
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 31/12/2023 : 00:14:39
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I'm having a great time looking at all of this research. Alfred Mikkelson immigrated to the U.S. in 1905 and ended up in Eolia, Pike County, Missouri where he married Dorthy Fillinger. From there, his travels are lost until he ends up in Strome Alberta Canada where he purchased a homestead farm. I can easily see that he would likely have ended up in Minnesota for a time. |
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
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Posted - 31/12/2023 : 00:20:38
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To complete Jackie's list of baptisms above, here is a search that returns the (possibly complete tally of) twelve children in Mikkel and Pernille'smarriage.
At first sight, Mina's baptism was in 1885, in contrast with what we have seen elsewhere. All transcriptions returned by this search are, however, of the "AMS type", meaning that they have been incorporated from the much lower quality transcription libraries built up by Ancestry, MyHeritage and Familysearch. If you click on the "See scanned version" link up on the left side (while reading the '85 match) you come to the original, which tells you that the baptism actuelly took place in '88.
As long as these low quality transcriptions are clearly marked, I personally have no trouble with them. For every match that turns up, you just have to look in the box for CONTRIBUTERS (or BIDRAGSYTERE in the Norwegian version) down on the right. If you find AMS there, it is a warning that you need to double check in the original. |
Edited by - ToreL on 31/12/2023 00:33:17 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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