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EStrong
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 Posted - 22/03/2024 : 12:48:48
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Hello!
I found this site searching around; I'm trying to do my best to track down a family member and dig back into my Norwegian blood heritage. I think I've found their birth record, but between the hundred plus years of linguistic drift, the handwriting, and my very poor Norwegian, I'm having trouble deciphering if there is any useful information beyond the people's names. Here are the links to the parish record in question
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/6016/84
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/6014/30974/81
Can someone help translate all the column headers, and then the row for girl 47, Anna?
Similarly, I may have found her parent's marriage record, so I have the same request for these two.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/6014/246
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/6016/77944/22
I've not been able to find any other records in Norway for Anna, so any additional information would be appreciated. |
Edited by - EStrong on 23/03/2024 05:51:42 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/03/2024 : 13:08:31
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This page has translation of the the standard page headings by year:
https://homepages.rootsweb.com/~norway/na20.html
There are several abbreviations on the entry: Uk in front of Johannes' name is short for ungkarl or bachelor, Dagl. is short for daglonner or day laborer, Eie at the end of many of farms named means that it is the cotter's place on the farm, Hm is short for husmann or cotter, H is short for hustru or wife.
In the last column on the far right the mother of the child has reported the birth and in this case it is each of the parent's 1st indiscretion.
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Edited by - jkmarler on 22/03/2024 13:20:15 |
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Myhrecharlie
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jkmarler
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Myhrecharlie
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jkmarler
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EStrong
New on board
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Posted - 23/03/2024 : 05:50:47
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Wow, thank you! That was quick and extremely helpful! Of course, now I'll have more questions!
You mention the last column says something about being each parent's 1st 'indiscretion'. That means first child, or does it have some other meaning here? One of the stories I had heard was that Anna came to the US to meet with an older sister, but if she's their first, that must be proved false.
Are the remarks on the marriage of any note? I can't figure out what the confirmation remarks on the record you found seem to indicate, if anything, thoughts?
I feel more confident in my finding of this as their '91 census record.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/37737/4454
But that also raises more questions. There are three people listed in the house, Johannes, Helene, and a third child recently born, that I translate as not baptized, does that seem correct? The kid was so young that was what they were recorded as? Which means this is probably Anna's record:
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/37737/2489
"lægdslem en indleiet af Furnæs Fattigvæsen" placed by the Furnes poor service? Child welfare sort of thing, that she was placed in a home to receive higher quality care?
With that 1900 census record in particular, the note Tjenestepige i Fjøset -- barn servant, stablehand, does that sound accurate? Was it unusual for a fifteen year old girl to be out on her own hired as farm labor at that point in time? The timeframe makes some sense; I'm going to be doing some deeper digging with this info, but stories indicate she came over ~1902.
Back to the confirmation record though, to tie in my last question for now. In many of these entries, I see placenames. For the villages/towns/etc, I'm having much more difficulty. Are there lists or something that might help me in deciphering them into modern locations? From the records already linked alone, we have Stadpellida, Mehlum, Nordre Saug, Berg... Are these farm names, villages, a mixture? Berg appears on the farm name list, and on the confirmation record; on the record, it's listed as her location, but also as part of her name. Did it get added just to help distinguish her, or because she was confirmed there? In family records, it has shown up as part of her name sometimes as well, and I always wondered if it had some place association, so it seems it might. But I can't find it on a map, or where it might have been, nor can I find Stadpellida in anything.
Oh, actual last question. You found all these things so quickly! What resources did you use? Just searching through the digital archives in the area using the website, or another site or something to find these? I'd like to be able to find these things for myself too :)
Again, thank you, thank you, thank you! |
Edited by - EStrong on 23/03/2024 05:52:34 |
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Myhrecharlie
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Myhrecharlie
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/03/2024 : 18:02:34
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There is a Family Tree on Ancestry for this family if you are interested. I do not know how accurate it is? A quick glance at the whole family leaves me with some doubt about the accuracy of a lot of the tree.
Annie Christine Nelson Berg
1885–1946
BIRTH 23 AUG 1885 • Hedmark, Ringsaker, Norway
DEATH 17 MAR 1946 • Bliss Township, Emmet County, Michigan, USA
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/73561223/person/232384134449/facts
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/03/2024 : 18:17:10
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The Family Tree mentioned above shows her arrival as 1903 and as Anna Berg. Does that make sense?
Anna Berg
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name Anna Berg
Gender Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality Norwegian
Age 18
Birth Date abt 1885
Departure Port Liverpool, England
Arrival Date 22 May 1903
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Residence Place Christiania
Ship Name Aurania
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/4030802481:7488?ssrc=pt&tid=73561223&pid=232384134449
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AntonH
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AntonH
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/03/2024 : 19:31:24
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The census record for 1900 shows the parents listed as living at Haugenhollen in Furnes sub-parish (sogn) a part of Vang parish (prestegjeld ).
The confirmation record shows Anna living at Berg in Furnes when she was confirmed in 1900. Nr 34
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070110620367
However the 1900 Census shows her living at Bruget midtre. in Ringsaker parih.
Here is link to a map of Hedmark, shows how close are the various parishes that are discussed in this thread
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Hedmark_County,_Norway_Genealogy
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Edited by - AntonH on 24/03/2024 02:47:30 |
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Myhrecharlie
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/03/2024 : 02:46:21
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Hmm, looks like the 1900 Norwegian Census on my computer |
Edited by - AntonH on 24/03/2024 02:49:31 |
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Anna Johannesdatter
