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AntonH
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AntonH
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 Posted - 05/04/2024 : 20:42:01
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Baptism of Johannes in 1782
Johannes Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name Johannes Johansen
Gender Male
Baptism Date 25. des 1782 (25 Dec 1782)
Baptism Place , Lyngdal, Vest-Agder, Norway
Father
Johannes Roynestol
Mother
Aase
FHL Film Number 127365
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070608330465
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rcjjohnson
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Posted - 05/04/2024 : 21:50:47
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Wow. This is fantastic. Thank you Anton. And the newspaper obit is intriguing as well. I assume that "Begraves ved Spind Kirke" is the funeral service, but it may also indicate burial in the church cemetery, correct? Contemplating a trip there this summer.
Tore, you are correct, I was misspelling "Dareid". I was wondering if "Daaro" was a location--as in a "city"--that distinguished "Johannes Andreassen" but you are indicating it was the farm itself? On the link to the map you provided earlier, "Dareid" is indicated on the map as a specific farm. In the lower right hand corner of that map, you can click on different views. The view on the right hand side lists several "Dareid" on the map, including one directly "above" the pinpoint mark, and one to the left up on the hill. Does this indicate a general place, or something more specific, like a hill or land related to the farm? |
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rcjjohnson
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Posted - 05/04/2024 : 21:55:33
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AntonH
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ToreL
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Posted - 05/04/2024 : 22:39:48
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Originally posted by rcjjohnson
Wow. This is fantastic. Thank you Anton. And the newspaper obit is intriguing as well. I assume that "Begraves ved Spind Kirke" is the funeral service, but it may also indicate burial in the church cemetery, correct? Contemplating a trip there this summer.
Tore, you are correct, I was misspelling "Dareid". I was wondering if "Daaro" was a location--as in a "city"--that distinguished "Johannes Andreassen" but you are indicating it was the farm itself? On the link to the map you provided earlier, "Dareid" is indicated on the map as a specific farm. In the lower right hand corner of that map, you can click on different views. The view on the right hand side lists several "Dareid" on the map, including one directly "above" the pinpoint mark, and one to the left up on the hill. Does this indicate a general place, or something more specific, like a hill or land related to the farm?
"Begraves ved Spind Kirke" means that he was going to be buried by Spind Church, and almost certainly in the church cemetery. It is unlikely, however, that the grave still exists. Over the past decade(s) a quite extensive database of existing Norwegian graves has been assembled, and his grave doesn't seem to be there.
There are at least two and by now possibly several Dåreid farms. The original farm was split in two some years before Johannes and his brother bought one of the halves, but I haven't found any information in the book that locates their half relative to the other. Also the distinction between farm names and general area names is often quite fuzzy. Possibly something more specific can be said in this case, but I am not the person to do so. There is a Spind History Society that might be able to help you more. Don't hesitate to contact them in English, most Norwegians today are quite able in English. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/04/2024 : 22:46:36
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It is likely that using the various trees and confirming the path set up by the original baptism and marriage records one can take your family history back to about 1600's.
Here is the marriage record of Ole Iversen and Gunhild Olsdatter
Ole Iversen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name Ole Iversen
Gender Male
Marriage Date 28. des 1811 (28 Dec 1811)
Marriage Place Lyngdal,Vest-Agder,Norway
Spouse
Gunnil Olsdr
FHL Film Number 127365
Second record far left column
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070611310185
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ToreL
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Posted - 05/04/2024 : 22:55:26
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| Bolette died later in the same year as Johannes. Newspaper notice. Her grave doesn't seem to exist today, either. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/04/2024 : 23:00:16
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So just to try and keep things straight. Joannes Andreasen married Bollete Sølvesdatter
Parents of Johannes are
Andreas Johannessson ca 1816-1892
Olea Olsdtr 1818-1882
Parents of Andreas are
Joannes Johannesen and
Aase Troendsdatter
Parents of Joannes are
Johannes Hågensen and Åse Torjusdatter
Parents of Aase are
Tron Heljesen and Gunild Hellingsdatter
So here is some information on Aase Troensdatter. Here she is with her parents in the 1801 Census
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058341003421
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/04/2024 : 23:14:58
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Probably best to stick with one line now and see how far we can take it back in time
Parents of Johannes are
Andreas Johannessson ca 1816-1892
Olea Olsdtr 1818-1882
Parents of Andreas are
Joannes Johannesen and
Aase Troendsdatter
Parents of Johannes are
Johannes Hågensen and Åse Torjusdatter
The marriage of Johannes Hågensen and Åse Torjusdatter
Johannes Haagensen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name Johannes Haagensen
Gender Male
Marriage Date 25. mai 1768 (25 May 1768)
Marriage Place Lyngdal,Vest-Agder,Norway
Spouse
Aase Torgiusdr
FHL Film Number 127365
Marriage
https://gw.geneanet.org/kstuestol?lang=en&p=johannes&n=hagensson
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/04/2024 : 00:31:59
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Here is some information on the Bolette side of your family. Here is her baptism.
Bolette Salvesdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name Bolette Salvesdatter
Gender Female
Birth Date 16. jun 1849 (16 Jun 1849)
Baptism Date 24. jun 1849 (24 Jun 1849)
Baptism Place Spind, Vest-Agder, Norway
Father
Salve Berntsen
Mother
Elen Thoresdr
FHL Film Number 311256
Reference ID 2:PMFMVG
Nr 20
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060103010300
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/04/2024 : 00:36:22
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And the marriage of Salve and Elen.
Salve Berentsen
in the Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s
Name Salve Berentsen
Age 31 years
Gender Male
Birth Date Ca.1815
Marriage Date 28. jun 1846 (28 Jun 1846)
Marriage Place Herad, Vest-Agder, Norway
Spouse Elen Lovise Thoresdr
Spouse's Age 31 years
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Birth Date Ca.1815
Father Bernt Vig
Spouse's Father Thore Daaroe
Marriage
Nr 4
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060103010376
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Johannessen Andreassen and Bolette Salvesdotter
