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KimShanahan
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 Posted - 11/01/2025 : 21:16:50
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I am looking for ancestors and origin for my great-great-grandmother Carrie (Caroline) Burgen (Borgen) Birth (from death certificate) was July 2, 1858, in Norway Lived in the Chicago area and married a H. Victor Hebert from Quebec (2 AUG 1884). Death certificate listed father as Thomas Borgan. Census states she arrived about 1872. Before her marriage Chicago census lists her occupation as servant.
Thanks!
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 11/01/2025 : 23:28:09
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Edited by - ToreL on 12/01/2025 00:26:14 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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ToreL
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7816 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2025 : 02:18:48
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Original poster are you able to give us a link to the 1880 census for your Carrie. Using familysearch the only one I could find was a Carrie Borg who was born in Indiana to Swedish parents:
"United States, Census, 1880", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXNN-JV4 : Sun Mar 10 03:39:35 UTC 2024), Entry for Daniel T. Nelson and Sarah Nelson, 1880. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2025 : 03:23:45
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Here in 1910, Carrie is listed as born in Norway in 1862:
Name:
Carrie Herbert
Census Year:
1910
Gender:
Female
Age:
48
Marital Status:
Widowed
Race:
White
Relationship:
Mother
Son:
Hector Herbert
Residence:
Hammond Ward 4, Lake, Indiana, United States
Birthplace:
Norway
Birth Year:
1862
Household Members:
Name
Age
Hector Herbert
38
Mamie Herbert
28
Carrie Herbert
16
Victor Herbert
13
Edna Herbert
9
Source Citation
"United States Census, 1910," database with images, GenealogyBank (https://genealogybank.com/#), Carrie Herbert, Hammond Ward 4, Lake, Indiana, United States. (Original index: United States Census, 1910, FamilySearch, 2014) |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7816 Posts |
Posted - 12/01/2025 : 03:29:31
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In 1920 census, as male (!):
Name:
Carie Herbert
Census Year:
1920
Gender:
Male
Age:
58
Marital Status:
Widowed
Race:
White
Relationship:
Head
Son:
Victor Herbert
Son:
Hector Herbert
Daughter:
Mamie Swint
Residence:
Whiting Ward 4, Lake, Indiana, United States
Birthplace:
Norway
Birth Year:
1862
Household Members:
Name
Age
Victor Herbert
22
Hector Herbert
26
Carmela Herbert
21
Mamie Swint
29
Dorthy Swint
Source Citation
"United States Census, 1920," database with images, GenealogyBank (https://genealogybank.com/#), Carie Herbert, Whiting Ward 4, Lake, Indiana, United States. (Original index: United States Census, 1920, FamilySearch, 2014) |
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KimShanahan
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KimShanahan
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KimShanahan
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 12/01/2025 : 15:16:29
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The baptism above was the most promising we could find with the data you have given us, but later Norwegian records prove it cannot be her. Do you any other small pieces of information, anyhing could be helpful. Is there a mother's name also on Carrie's death certificate?
Edit: Postings crossed each other, I was referring to the baptism in Modum. Don't American death certificates often list mothers as well? |
Edited by - ToreL on 12/01/2025 15:22:08 |
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KimShanahan
Starting member
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2025 : 15:18:40
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FYI I have the following documents attached to Carrie in my Ancestry tree:
1880 census
1900 census (lists Sweden as place of birth, but that is a miscommunication since her household members are accurate.)
1910 census (shows Norway as birthplace)
marriage record in 1884 says age 25 yrs.
death certificate listing father as Thomas Borgen.
Would love to find her origin city and information on her father.
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KimShanahan
Starting member
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Posted - 12/01/2025 : 15:22:39
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Her death certificate lists mother as unknown. I know that the marriage to Hector/Victor Hebert is correct, due to DNA matches in his lineage.
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Originally posted by ToreL
The baptism above was the most promising we could find with the data you have given us, but later Norwegian records prove it cannot be her. Do you any other small pieces of information, anyhing could be helpful. Is there a mother's name also on Carrie's death certificate?
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KimShanahan
Starting member
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Posted - 12/01/2025 : 15:34:00
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Also, Hebert eventually morphed into Herbert and is sometimes transcribed as Habert in documents.
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Lineage for Carrie Borgan/Burgen
