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Diane Scramstad
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Canada
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Posted - 01/04/2025 :  23:51:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found Anders and Ragnhild in a 1865 census in Nesset with twin sons Knud and Ole age 4 years.

1875 census Nesset, Anders and Ragnhild with 5 children that we have discussed before on this forum, but there is no Knud or Ole.

I am wondering if these 2 couples are the same people ?

Also is there a way to track people leaving the USA and entering Norway in 1903 ?

Diane Scramstad

AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 02/04/2025 :  03:01:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Also is there a way to track people leaving the USA and entering Norway in 1903 ?


No, there are no passenger records leaving USA and entering Norway in that time frame.
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/04/2025 :  03:09:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For the record

1865 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038295000334

1875 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052344000362

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AntonH
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Posted - 02/04/2025 :  03:35:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks to me as if the boys born about 1861 are already out working by the 1875 Census. Here is likely Ole on the Lyster farm

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052344000904

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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/04/2025 :  03:54:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AntonH

quote:

Also is there a way to track people leaving the USA and entering Norway in 1903 ?


No, there are no passenger records leaving USA and entering Norway in that time frame.



If they stayed and were counted in the 1910 census, the information about their stay in US might be revealed in the census.
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/04/2025 :  04:00:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Unfortunately I was not able to find a record for Knud Andersen born about 1861 in either the 1875 Census or in the death records for Nesset, More og Romsdal between the years of 1865 and 1875.?

Edited by - AntonH on 02/04/2025 04:02:49
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/04/2025 :  04:20:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
However there is this young man named Knud Andersen born 1863 in Rødven S, ie Rødven Sogn (parish) which is a likely match for your young man. Living on Rydjord farm in Veøy parish, More og Romsdal. He is working as a shepherd boy.


https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052343002152

Veøy is a parish next to Nesset. And Rød is a sub-parish of Nesset.

Map

Edited by - AntonH on 02/04/2025 04:28:49
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Diane Scramstad
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Canada
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Posted - 02/04/2025 :  14:30:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the help. I'm thinking they are the same couple. My great grandmother named her son Ole.

Peder and Randi Forseth had a daughter Ragna born Norway 1887. They left for the USA in 1888. I found them in 1900 census South Dakota. In 1903 they came back to Norway with children for visit. I can find them leaving Norway for Canada but there is no Ragna. I was jus wondering what happened to her.

Diane Scramstad
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ToreL
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Norway
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Posted - 02/04/2025 :  20:29:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Clipping from Nesset Bygdebok. Here is the 1859 wedding. Follow the link to scanned version to see the original. You find the double baptism of Ole and Knud in the same church book at the bottom of this page. First child Karen baptised here.

Edited by - ToreL on 02/04/2025 20:57:51
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Diane Scramstad
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Canada
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Posted - 03/04/2025 :  00:53:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ToreL

Clipping from Nesset Bygdebok. Here is the 1859 wedding. Follow the link to scanned version to see the original. You find the double baptism of Ole and Knud in the same church book at the bottom of this page. First child Karen baptised here.



Thank you so much for very interesting information.

Diane Scramstad
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jkmarler
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Posted - 04/04/2025 :  00:48:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't know if this is the same one but from MOMS:
ST. LOUIS E1-012 09/17/1910 HELGETUN, INGEBRETH FORSETH, RAGNA
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/04/2025 :  03:42:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good find Jackie.

This is likely your Ragna Birth year is a bit off. for Ragna we are searching for/

Rigna Helgetun
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name Rigna Helgetun
Birth Year abt 1882
Gender Female
Race White
Age in 1930 48
Birthplace Norway
Marital Status Married
Relation to Head of House Wife
Homemaker? Yes
Home in 1930 Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota, USA
Map of Home Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota
Street Address 2nd St.
Ward of City Precinct 44 and 47
House Number 2217
Dwelling Number 47
Family Number 68
Age at First Marriage 28
Attended School No
Able to Read and Write Yes
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Language Spoken Norwegian
Immigration Year 1905
Naturalization Naturalized
Able to Speak English Yes
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Ingebrigt Helgetun
58
Head
Rigna Helgetun 48 Wife
Gertrude Helgetun
10
Daughter
Alice Helgetun
9
Daughter

Rigna Helgetun
Census • United States, Census, 1930

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3DX-L1W?lang=en







Edited by - AntonH on 04/04/2025 04:33:29
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/04/2025 :  04:24:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Might not be the right lady. Family Search Tree identifies her as

Ragnhild H. Tørseth
Census • Norges folketelling, 1900

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:DJZM-C52M?lang=en

Needs some more digging to be certain.
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/04/2025 :  04:31:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And some more

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000014561124

Emigration 1905

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/291/pu00000000178860

1900 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/291/pu00000000178860

1891 Census

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053068002309

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jkmarler
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Posted - 04/04/2025 :  08:27:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Same name, different lives.
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