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Ruben
Starting member
Belgium
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 Posted - 13/05/2025 : 23:26:04
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Wow! Thanks for the update guys. Impressive that you have found Rødfyllgata and even historic photo's of n° 20.
It is a pity Marie Halvorsdatter cannot be found on DigitalArkivet at that address.
About the burial record in Haugesund: my hypothesis would be that either the father (Hans Peter) or the son (Hans Peter Willem) are effectively burried there?
I am sure that Hans Peter Willem was not born in Ullensaker, but in Antwerp, as a birth certificate can be found there (n° 4878). Furthermore, it is also a big coincidence that the death record mentions Antwerp as place of residence and the correct birth year of Hans Peter's only son who shares an almost identical name with him.
But if it is Hans Peter Willem, then where and when did his father die?
Perhaps also interesting: Hans Peter didn't seem to be around much when his children were born, as his absence is almost always mentioned in their birth records. This could indicate that he was at sea a lot on international ships?
Hans Peter named his second son 'Antonius Julius' (°29/04/1902), probably after his father. Another police report (dated 1919) which mentions that Hans Peter's wife returned from the Netherlands and he himself had already died at that point, says this son is staying "at sea". So he probably also became a seafarer.
Unfortunatelly, this report does not claim Hans Peter Willem to have died, which challenges the hypothesis that he was buried in Haugesund. Perhaps it was father Hans Peter after all, who died on a ship heading for Haugesund after all and out of ignorance, they wrote down the birth year of the son? (Although they must have known that Hans Peter was much older.)
The date of birth on the burial record is indeed poorly written, but is almost impossible to make 1865 from that. No? |
Edited by - Ruben on 13/05/2025 23:29:36 |
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
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Posted - 14/05/2025 : 08:22:18
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| Entry in Haugesund city protocol over deceased. According to tjis, he was born in Rotterdam in 1866. |
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
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Posted - 14/05/2025 : 11:03:15
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Clipping from Haugesund Dagblad, Nov. 8 1918. English translation:
2nd engineer on the Dutch steamship 'Gasconier' which sank off Røvær, died suddenly yesterday of pneumonia in the hospital where he had been for some time after the hardships he endured along with his comrades after the sinking.
The funeral has not been scheduled, but a large Norwegian flag is desired to cover the coffin. And of course, Norwegian sailors who are at home will accompany their Belgian colleague to his final resting place |
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
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Posted - 14/05/2025 : 11:12:25
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| Gascoigne was sunk by a mine already in August. Clipping from Norges Handels og Sjøfarts Tidene on August 21, 1918. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/05/2025 : 12:09:31
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| Excellent work Tore! |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/05/2025 : 12:17:47
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On the wee small slip attached to the police report which lists all the children born to Hans Peter and Cornelia, it says Hans Peter with a birthdate in 1896 died on 11 Nov 1920. Cornelia died in 1944.
Other slips also say Hans Peter came to country in 1887. |
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