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ST HELENA
New on board

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2003 :  20:41:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MY GRANDPARENTS CAME TO THE STATE ON THE RMS CARMANIA IN JUNE 1923 FROM LIVERPOOL. I SEE ON YOUR PAGE THT YOU HAVE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES OF THE SHIP. I AM ALSO LOOKING FOR A PASSENGER OR ANY ARTIFACTS, PICTURES, SHIP PLANS, LEAFLETS. CAN ANYONE HELP ME AS TO WHERE I CAN PURCHASE THESE ITEMS. MY GRAND PARENTS NAMES WERE: HARRY AND ETHEL LEYLAND. THIS WEB PAGE HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED ON GETTING INFORMATION OF THE RMS CARMANIA.
THANK YOU
CAROL

stevej
Junior member

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2003 :  02:36:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

The Ellis Island web site have pictures of the " Carmania "
for sale, my Grandfather also came over on this ship and I
purchased a copy of the manifest along with a picture of the
" Carmania " for my Father. I hope this helps.

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stevej
Junior member

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2003 :  05:12:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Did a quick search of the Ellis Island website and found:
Harry Leyland 25y 6m
Ethel Leyland 25y 3m
Arriving July 9, 1923 from Liverpool,England
place of residence St.Helens ,England

Just go to the Ellis Island site and enter Harry Leyland
for the search. You can purchase a copy of the original
manifest, along with a pic of their ship.

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ST HELENA
New on board

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 13/01/2003 :  14:16:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you so very much!!! My Dad said that his parents did not come throught Ellis Island, Ho I do not know ... but I took his word for it. thank yo again!!
carol

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Hegra
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1 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2003 :  18:15:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello:
The Ellis Island database is based on the U.S. Federal Customs manifests for the Port of New York. There are no actual Ellis Island records. Only third class steerage passengers were ever sent to be processed on Ellis Island, first and second class were processed abroad ship. Your ancestors may have entered this country through the Port of New York but were not processed at Ellis Island and it is very likely correct when they said they did not go to Ellis Island.

Also, I have personally found ancestors that are listed on this site but were actually only on a ship that stopped in New York Harbor, only half the passengers got off in New York and the rest proceeded to Baltimore where they entered the U.S. Many ships stopped at more than one port.

The only way to correctly verify information is to get a copy of the microfilmed actual original passenger manifests.
Regards,
Jo Anne

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slc33
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1 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2004 :  00:57:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Carol

If you are still around as your email address is not working

Can you contact me re your LEYLANDS....believe your Harry and Ethel LEYLAND are part of my cousin in England's family....would like to get you in contact with him....

Hope you see this

slc33
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2004 :  21:50:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To Hegra:

Please do your own postings, not repost mine. Thank you.
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Jo Anne Sadler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
1100 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2004 :  22:29:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You need to determine what class of travel they took, only third class was processed at the Ellis Island Immigration Center, the rest were aboard ship. Recommend you read the article on this site - New York Passenger Records now online.

Doing a Google search and/or Ebay may yield some other information on this ship.
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