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ladytaurean
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 Posted - 11/03/2003 : 17:33:16
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Halfdan Andersen was the general agent of the Inman Line in 1883. He was authorized to convey emigrants via Hull to Liverpool and from there to New York and on to the final destinations in America. This points us in direction of the S/S City of Berlin of the Inman Line, departing Liverpool and called at Queenstown 1883-07-27, arrived at New York 1883-08-04 with 670 passengers at 18:00 evening after crossing the Ocean in 7 days 1 hour and 15 min. I would check that list first!
Børge Solem
Thanks so much Børge! Your suggestion has helped me narrow the corresponding ships for Rollo even more! I may not get to the Family History Center as of this week due to a death in the family, but I will let you know if i found them as soon as I am able to. I may need some insight as to where they went from New York. As I am told, they went to Minnesota, then to Wisconsin, then on to the Upper Penninsula to Manistique, Michigan. But I have no idea where to start after i find the ship they took to New York. I will get back with you as soon as i can. Thanks again! Scarlet Krempetz
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ladytaurean
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Posted - 19/03/2003 : 13:24:18
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I also know Steffen's father is a Halvor Kornelius Söja.. and I'm not quiet sure if Kornelius is spelled with a K or C.
This is from one of my earilier posts....This is Steffen Halvorsen's father..my gggg-grandfather. Can anyone help me find some information on Halvor? I have found nothing! Thank you!
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/03/2003 : 02:21:34
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If you go to the LDS site http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
Search for Halvor Corneliusen
Click on Halvor Corneliusen OR Buskerudeie
and when his record comes, click on family and you will get the whole family including Steffen. This family is from Modem and doesn't really match with Steffen in Sigdal. I did find the girls in Modem in the 1865 census but none of the boys. The records on the LDS are from individuals so could be errors there. The only way find out for sure is to go to the parish records and find them. Anyway this is another clue to follow.
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ladytaurean
Junior member
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Posted - 20/03/2003 : 06:34:45
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Thanks Carla, I had found that info about a month ago. When I did a parent search for Karen Halvorsdatter(Steffen's sister)on the LDS website..It did pull up Halvor Kornelius Soja as her father and Gunhild Marie Skresvik as her mother...That information matches what I have in my family history book that was written by Karen's son, August Klagstad. But it says at the bottom on the LDS website, no source information is available! See when August wrote this Klagstad/Halvorsen history, he went in depth on the Klagstad side and not the Halvorsen side. Birth, marriage and death dates are missing on the Halvorsen side...Steffen is my ggg-grandfather. Karen is his sister. So I'm trying to fill in what August didnt on the Halvorsen side...Ok now being that the search for Halvor Corneliusen on the LDS website pulled up the exact names for his children that I have in my family history book...what I am wondering is where did Soja come from??? This is a big puzzle to me...If Buskerudie is the farm name that he took...then how did the name Soja come into play? So, if you know anyone that may help me, it would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you so much Carla....
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Brining
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/03/2003 : 23:45:18
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It does get confusing, There is a Buskerud gard in Modum in the 1801 census with a Cornelius Stephensen and son Halvor Corneliusen
Click Here Modum is also where I found Karen and Bolleta in the 1865 census.
I don't know where søja comes from, when people moved to another gard the "last" name would change so it could be the name of a gard they lived on a one time. One possiblity is that you have two families with similar names (one in Modum and one in Sigdal??) and not related.
To really get everything correct you should rent the kirkbøker (parish) records for Modum and Sigdal on microfilm from the LDS and find them there. The birth, death, confimation, and marriage records would be there and hopefully you can sort everything out.
Good Luck Carla |
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ladytaurean
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Posted - 21/03/2003 : 14:02:27
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YES! It is very confusing!! LOL I do have the 1801 census with Halvor Corneliusen at 3. I also have the 1865 census with Karen and Torger, and I did notice that Torger's last name was Kristensen, and the name of their gard was Klegstad..Hence Klagstad in the U.S. Karen and Torger came to the U.S. in 1871, and Steffen and Johanna came in 1883. And on the LDS website it came up Buskerudei or something like that LOL...I am wondering after the kids were grown and gone...Halvor and wife Gunhild went to a farm with the name Soja in it. And since I can't find Halvor or Gunhild in the 1865 census, I am thinking that they had already passed away by then. I do have to go to the Family history center to find out what ship Steffen and Johanna arrived on in New York, so I will add the Search for Halvor as well, and yes hopelfully I can get everything sorted out!!! Thank you for your help Carla...And if by chance you do find anything else..you can email me at ladytaurus67@aol.com
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ladytaurean
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Posted - 26/03/2003 : 13:16:35
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Does anyone have access in finding farms? I am looking for a farm with the name Søja. My gggg-grandfather, Halvor Cornelius Søja is who Im looking for. I am under the assumption that his name was Halvor Corneliusen, then got the name Søja from a farm..He was born 1798. Any information would be appreciated! I did find Halvor in the 1801 census with his father Cornelius Stephensen, on a farm named Buskerud Herregaard. Halvor was 3yrs. I could not find Halvor in the 1865 census. Thank you! Scarlet Krempetz
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ladytaurean
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Posted - 31/03/2003 : 16:16:20
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This information I had found in my family history book that was written by August Klagstad (Klagstad/Halvorsen Family History)I thought if I wrote this here it might help someone to help me.
"The Soja family was very large and relationship spread over the South and Eastern parts of Modum. They were a family of influence, but through misfortune of one cause or another poverty and hard work became their lot. They were employed in and around the Cobalt Mines and Smelter. Some of the women were emplyed at Modum's Bad, a health resort where people from many countries came for health."
I found 2 small farms in the 1865 census that contained the name Søja, but none of the family I am looking for is in either of these:
1.Budskerud kaldet nordere Søja
2.Budskerud kaldet søndere Søja
What I am trying to find out, is when my family was on a farm that contained the name Søja. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! If anyone finds anything, please e-mail me if you would like.
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Brining
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ladytaurean
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Posted - 03/04/2003 : 16:03:08
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Thank You Carla! I will give that a try! I have been unable to find Halvor Corneliusen/Søja b 1798 or his wife Gunhild Svennsd./Svensd./Svendsd./Skresvik b 1803 in the 1865 census, so I am thinking both of them were deceased by then. I went to the LDS website and i wasnt able to pull a death date on either of them as well. If anyone has access to books that contain the deaths in Buskerud, I would greatly appreciate the help!
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ladytaurean
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Posted - 15/04/2003 : 17:39:15
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Does anyone have any information on when the Cobalt mines were opened by the German Capitalists? In my family history book it says Cornelius Söja(father of Halvor Cornelius Söja) came up from Slesvik-Holstein during that time, but there is no specific date. In doing some research, I found that the Cobalt mines opened in 1773, but I'm not sure if that is when Cornelius came to Norway. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you!
Scarlet Krempetz
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/06/2003 : 15:59:08
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Hi Scarlet,
the cobalt in Modum was discovered in 1772, but mining didn't start until the year after.
Baron W.C. Benneche from Berlin, Germany, buys the works in 1823.
Maybe this is the year you're looking for...?
Check out the history of Blaafarveværket ("Bluecolorfactory") here.
Jan
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ladytaurean
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Posted - 05/06/2003 : 18:03:49
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Jan,
Thank you for your efforts but I had already found the information some time ago..and even the website that you put in your post. Thats how I new that they actually opened in 1773. If you can find out if there was a farm with the name(I found it spelled several different ways) Söja, Söyen, Söjen, Söia. Specifically in the years between 1765-1827. I found my gggg-grandfather(Halvor Corneliusen) in the 1801 census for Modum listed under Buskerud Herregard, and I am told Herregard means "manor" So there were several sub-farms there. I was hoping someone might be able to look that up for me! I would greatly appreciated!
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/06/2003 : 21:01:00
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Hi again, Scarlet.
I found these two farms in the 1865-census for Modum, Buskerud:
"Budskerud kaldet nordere Søia" and "Budskerud kaldet søndere Søia".
The owner of nordere Søia is widow Karen Dorthea Hansdatter.
The owner of søndere Søia is cottar Anders Andersen.
The farm names means "Buskerud benefice northern/southern Søia". I'm not sure what Søia means, but the norw. word "søye" is an ewe, a femal sheep... Maybe? 
Could one of them be the farm you're looking for?
The 1801-census says that Cornelius Stephensen has his own's cotter's farm, but no name is mentioned. Could it be that he later named this farm "Søia"?
...and here is "nordere Søia" in the 1900-census. It's now called just "Søya".
Jan
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jwiborg
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Posted - 06/06/2003 : 00:01:45
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Hi again,
I just realized that you have mentioned those two farms in an earlier message... 
But I believe you should investigate more about those farms, it could happen that the farm was sold to these persons after Halvor Corneliusen and wife died...
And you've maybe allready seen this, but still;
- Hans Steffensen left Oslo, headed for New York on 01-JUL-1881.
- Netta Steffensen, headed for Mackenac on 02-OCT-1885.
- Karl Steffens, headed for Boston on 15-MAR-1901. He is already a US citizen by then, so this is just prob a trip back home...
Jan
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Looking for Steffen Halvorsen and family
